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 Posted: Sun Aug 1st, 2021 06:37 pm
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https://mexicodailypost.com/2021/08/01/thousands-of-cows-are-starving-to-death-in-sonora/

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Lots of steers die every year as 90% of the ranches have no irrigation.

The temporada was tough in the second quarter of this year no doubt, but Sonoran ranchers have to buy feed and haul water every year, even after they sell the feeders in October -Jan to make the natural feed and fields bufel last longer in the dry spells for their brood stock.

All my relatives east of HMO with ranches say they have been getting lots of rain this year with accumulations totaling of up to 8" so far to date in July

https://smn.conagua.gob.mx/es/climatologia/pronostico-climatico/precipitacion-form

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In other words, the article is deceptive as herds grow and shrink a lot due to the sale of calves every year to USA feedlots prior to the dry season. That's the prevalent business scheme for most all of the ejidos here, even in this year were the west has been drier than normal.

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Bullshipper wrote: In other words, the article is deceptive as herds grow and shrink a lot due to the sale of calves every year to USA feedlots prior to the dry season. That's the prevalent business scheme for most all of the ejidos here, even in this year were the west has been drier than normal.the article was deceptive as Bull said. there is no doubt that there where losses, but also just part of the cycle.


the "big ranches" are way ahead of the game in this. as Bull stated they sell much of their calves to USA feedlots and feed lots here. those feedlots finish the cattle and Mexico receives back a third of USA export production.

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Many cows being sold from Montana and Wyoming as there is no grass and will be no winter pasture. Bale of hay from about 3 bucks to 15 bucks.

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Yeh, I read that today - it's also happening big time in the Can prairie provinces - but I can't be bothered to argue with know-it-alls

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nice guy wrote: https://mexicodailypost.com/2021/08/01/thousands-of-cows-are-starving-to-death-in-sonora/

nice guy , i wrote; "there is no doubt there are losses" and the "big ranches are way ahead of the game in this'. the small ranches have historically always suffered.


big ranches here and in the USA have the ability to move their herds to greener pastures. many big ranchers have multiple ranches, some down here in the dryer desert and some where there are lush prairies in the higher regions of Sonora. 
many also have huge irrigated pastures, they can rotate the cattle in.


big rancher or little rancher Sonora is OVER GRAZED in every part of the state. there appears to be no governmental regulations.




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