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 Posted: Sat Jul 24th, 2021 08:49 pm
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I've read a lot sooner for approval also.
The January and February time tables is if the FDA uses the normal time frame of around 6 months. I would hope it's going to be a lot sooner than that.


I also heard one of the doctors on the Pfizer board stating that a booster for Delta should be taken within six to nine months after your second dose. 


Your previous posts stated accurately the issues out there with the variants. It's going to be a mess. Millions of anti-vaxxers, millions in countries without access to the vaccines. Variants have all the time in the world to get worse. 

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DocD wrote: Pfizer is expected to receive full FDA approval in January and Moderna in February. Possibly sooner if the FDA speeds up the process a little. 


https://www.healthline.com/health-news/when-will-the-fda-give-full-approval-for-covid-19-vaccines


In 2020 the process was ‘sped up’ and look at all the nasty side effects that are now being revealed with the COVID-19 vaccines.
IMO they need to modify the current vaccines to fix those problems before proceeding through the normal time and process to FDA approval.

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MARIGOT wrote: DocD wrote: Pfizer is expected to receive full FDA approval in January and Moderna in February. Possibly sooner if the FDA speeds up the process a little. 


https://www.healthline.com/health-news/when-will-the-fda-give-full-approval-for-covid-19-vaccines


In 2020 the process was ‘sped up’ and look at all the nasty side effects that are now being revealed with the COVID-19 vaccines.
IMO they need to modify the current vaccines to fix those problems before proceeding through the normal time and process to FDA approval.


Are you referring to the "saving 100's of thousands lives" and "over a million hospitalizations prevented" side effect that you want fixed?  This is in the United States alone.  Or maybe you are referring to the side effects of "the world's economic recovery not tanking" as bad as it could have if the economic downturn had not been reversed thanks to the vaccine.   Yes, lets stop saving lives and help the economy totally collapse until those extremely rare side effects are fixed.   


Are you aware that all medicines have possible side effects, some very adverse?  

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With everything you read for and against, I can understand anyone have mixed views on almost any subject in world news. Tucker Carlson should rightfully be jailed imo, but everyone has their views.


I personally conclude that these vaccines have had an undeniable success rate with less than minimal side effects, based on my own use and published statistics, but again, you can find info that would lead you to feel the opposite was true.

So if Pfizer wants a volunteer today for 2.0, count me in with any disclaimer they throw at me.

It also bothers me that our process approval takes so long when researchers have software can analyse so many more variables than it could when this rules were drafted and approved years ago.

I am a layman out of my depth, but if folks have the right to refuse a vaccine, it seems fair that others can also choose to take the opposite stance to buy when offered with more of these superbugs going around.

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our area San Carlos/Guaymas is now in the RED. that is the level to remain in the highest precautions, because of the current amount of spread, infected and hospitalizations.
 
now for over a year and a half, to enter the stores, banks you are required to wear a mask. 
where it becomes confusing is when you go to the BAR / RESTAURANTS.
there,  EVERYBODY vaccinated or not are acting as if it is over and behind us!

what we have to remember is a lot of the openings NOB and HERE relied on an HONOR system to help many of the businesses from going under.

obviously that HONOR system failed.

currently the vaccinations are for free, this virus will surely be with us world wide for years. the governments will sooner or later have to stop the funding of free vaccinations and hospitals will stop treating the infected. then what?
this is the night mare scenario we are headed for!



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Just to give a clear picture on the dangers of Delta (and other future, possibly worse variants), 20% of the COVID infections in LA County in June were breakthrough infections of already double vaxed folks. The vast majority were infected with delta.

This is not due to the failure of the existing vaccines, it's due to the evolving variants and increasing transmissibility. I have read that the concentration of delta variant in the nose is about 2,000 times that of the original virus, which means the infected are shedding far more virus through breathing than the initial virus.

Since I personally know 3 vaccinated folks who have had breakthrough infections, I believe the stats. These folks may have died had they not been vaccinated.

Like Bullshipper, count me as eager to receive the Pfizer 2.0 booster.

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Very interesting TrueBlue. Count me in for the booster as well.

Here is a great article with some stats concerning breakthrough infections. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/rarely-covid-vaccine-breakthrough-infections-can-be-severe-who-s-n1274164


I agree Bullshipper 110%.  The damage done by Tucker Carlson is outrageous.  Here is a great video from yesterday where he is being told just that to his face at a sporting goods store.

https://youtu.be/6bzGGzkCpI0



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Sorry I missed it, what did Tucker Carlson say??

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Yeah, what did he say?

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Yeah, what did Tucker Carlson say??

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Here it is Hook...

Montana fishing guide  Dan Bailey to Tucker Carlson..

“Dude, you are the worst human being known to mankind,” Bailey can be heard saying in the video. “I want you to know that.”

“What you have done to this state, to the United States, to everyone else in this world. What you have done to families, what you have done to everybody else in this world. I don’t care that your daughter is here. What you’ve done to people’s families…”

At that point Carlson walked away.


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Carlson has been a leading voice in downplaying the effects of Covid-19 and promoting vaccine skepticism.

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He profits promoting outrageous conspiracy theories to get headline, internet clicks and advertising income. Unfortunately some folks take in his vitrol hook line and sinker.

And his vaccine disinformation will kill more folks than most major wars with no personal penalty for him or his mega rich employer.

But media on both sides of these issues need some tighter control if we hope to bring folks together as a nation again.


Intelligent leadership is direly needed to put these carnival barkers in their place.


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DocD wrote: Here it is Hook...

Montana fishing guide  Dan Bailey to Tucker Carlson..

“Dude, you are the worst human being known to mankind,” Bailey can be heard saying in the video. “I want you to know that.”

“What you have done to this state, to the United States, to everyone else in this world. What you have done to families, what you have done to everybody else in this world. I don’t care that your daughter is here. What you’ve done to people’s families…”

At that point Carlson walked away.


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[highlight= rgb(248, 248, 248);]So, he didnt say a thing is what he said?

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He called his heckler son.

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FOX NEWS lawyers argue in defense:
"no reasonable viewer would think tucker carlson is news"


Fox Wins McDougal Case, Argues No One Takes Tucker Carlson Seriously


Fox News Argues Against Karen McDougal's Lawsuit | Law & Crime



the man is a modern day "joseph goebbels" he has his following mesmerized, who absorb his spewing banter, of various subjects as a mantra, without question. to fuel their TWISTED belief system. 


look at ALL the flies that came out for this pile of crap, with just the mention of his name.


i agree with Jeff he should be jailed!!!!!!!!!!!!!







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.................and what did Tucker say??

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There are certain people on this site, and even a Montana fishing guide, that if you disagree with them (on any subject), then you need to be incarcerated....LMAO!!!!!

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I am sure Tucker's daughter had a big laugh too after her daddy had to walk out of the store muttering after he was shamed in front of her.

But you're a funny guy while more folks are dying, so tell me another one.

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So.........what did Tucker say?? I hear about the shaming by this person, but what did Tucker say to evoke this abasing?

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