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 Posted: Sat Dec 25th, 2010 08:33 pm
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Several years ago I bought paper 1:50,000 Topos of Guaymas, San Carlos, and a couple of quadrangles northwest along the coast. I bought them from Omni and had them delivered to Seattle. San Carlos is quadrangle G12A19.
http://www.omnimap.com/catalog/int/mex-map.htm

Recently I found a source for Digital Raster Maps that you can buy. I have not tried it. In fact, I cannot figure out if they deliver the DRG file electronically or via the postal service.
http://www.mexicomaps.com/mexico_topographic_maps.lasso?-session=mmid:181325021de8e24A6AgINOF4B974

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Hello,

      I've hiked quite a few areas around San Carlos. Mostly just bush wacking and animal trails but also Teta Kawi a few times, and all the trails you mentioned. I've been up to several ridges and view spots from high hills. I'd be interested in going with anyone on some more of these exploratory hikes. I usually carry a garbage bag to take out litter so I am a little concerned about making some of the easier walks more available. Seems the grafitti /basura crowd has done enough damage at the beaches and Nacapule etc.

     Anyway, I'm around until May 2011 so PM me or reply to this thread.

Thanks, Michael

PS I'm reasonably fit, 60...and kayak and mountain bike as well.

     

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 Posted: Mon Jan 3rd, 2011 04:49 pm
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News: I just got topographic base map data for the Guaymas/ San Carlos area.

The source of the data is US NASA - so there are NO restrictions on use or distribution. It was well hidden, took a lot of manipulation, and still needs a bit of cleanup and field verification. The contour interval is 20 meters - although it is currently displayed in feet.

It is in a vector format - so it is easy to add anything to it - trails, landmarks, roads, gates that block access. Currently it is ONLY contours.

Definitely a work in progress. When more complete it can easily be added to Garmin devices, PC/Mac viewers, Android, iPad/iPhone/iTouch, or print sections at specific zoom levels. Lots of others are possible too.

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Michael (CanaMex),

I would like to join you for some hikes. I'm 58, but perhaps not quite as buff.

We returned to Seattle for the holidays and will be back Jan 7.

asjogren1 (at) yahoo (dot) com

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Hello,

     Sure, get in touch when you get back to San Carlos. I'm not "buff" either. I just really like to get out in the desert and I find its more rewarding when I actually climb a big hill or get a different view. Usually an hour or so getting someplace is about right. Then, stop and enjoy the birds, plants and ... back home, maybe for a siesta ;-)

     email me with PM when you like.

 

Thanks, Michael

Last edited on Mon Jan 3rd, 2011 09:29 pm by canamex

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SunDial, El Tomate, & Desert Trails

Gates. Where are they? Are they legal? Is there "toll"?

I am building a custom map of San Carlos/Guaymas and want to collect and publish so visitors and residents can enjoy all that this wonderful place has to offer.

Saturday I visited the SunDial for the first time in 5 years. Obviously, the electronic gate is new since my last visit. By trial and error I found a route along the shore, behind the gate, and simply walked to the historic site. I have GPS track of how to bypass the gate. I can publish this track. But, I am not certain that I should. I don't know if the gate is legal. And neither do I know if the bypass is legal.

The number of gates blocking access to hikes and bicycle routes is increasing.

I remember the SunDial was a wonderful spot to take visitors. It was an easy 10 minute walk that most people could easily negotiate. And the views were spectacular. The bypass of the gate is NOT for everyone. One needs to scramble over questionable terrain.

It is very sad that the SunDial is now unavailable to the majority of visitors and residents. Have the local government authorities said anything about this? Is that gate legal? Should that gate be opened during daylight hours, or modified, so that hikers can again enjoy the spot donated to the community many, many years ago?

Where are all these other gates? Are there conditions that allow traversal? Is a "toll" required? Are only certain classes of travel allowed? Are there specific hours of operation?

I plan to incorporate any of this information in the custom map. And make that map available for free for non-commercial use for the visitors and residents of San Carlos.

If we share the information we know about San Carlos, more of us will be able to enjoy this wonderful place.

asjogren1 (at) yahoo (dot) com

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Thanks for your information on these hikes.  Do you anyone who is a hiking tour guide?  I would like to hire someone to guide several of us up to the "narrows" you mentioned.  I did it several years back and couldn't find it again without a guide!  But, I remember the 60-minute one-way hike up in the mountains was worth it. 

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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2011 09:04 pm
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BJBritto -

We have run into someone from Gary's Dive Shop that does some hiking tours. We ran into him and his clients at Nacapule Canyon.

We have talked with people who have used him and they told us that they were impressed.

We don't remember his name. But, the Dive Shop should be a good place to start.

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Thank you!  I will give it a try.

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There was some... er... heated discussion on the sun dial gate on the other forum.

Some felt the gate was not legal, but unless the police get involved, it is there to stay and opened only at will by whomever installed it.

You can go over to the beach club and hike out to the sundial. Its unfortunate that to do this you have to pass some sketchy terrain  along the cliff side and (at least to me) are made to feel like a trespasser as you go by the houses on the cliff. But technically there would be space enough for a public corridor along the cliffs to allow access.

Maybe a community effort to actually construct a safe trail along the side would be the way to go. Seeing such an effort, maybe the gate owners would create a walking space at their gate instead of wanting a full blown trail to be built between their house and the water.

This is definitely a touchy subject in some circles though...

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The east side of the peninsula is easier to navigate along the rocky beach to bypass the gate to the sun dial. 

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It's a year later and we ran into a locked gate - any updates? This place has a very special meaning for us. So much so, that in the "pre-gate" years we collected garbage to keep it tidy.

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The gate is a shame and I doubt the legality of blocking access. I've just climbed over on the left side and also just rolled under it (it is about 12" or more clearance and easy). Keep picking up the litter please. I do it on all my walks.

 There are loads of great places to hike and some of the ranchers are happy with a 50 peso fee to cross their land. They appreciate a cold drink, a candy bar, and friendly folks trying to speak Spanish. Most of the hills are an hour or two max and worth the effort to enjoy the view. Many of the canyons and arroyos are amazing too. Enjoy, Canamex

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You are agile. You can climb and roll :-) That's not an option for many including me. Using the precedent of this subdivsion, it may be plausible for any other subdivision to do the same. That sure would make a mokery out of the intent of the law to provide access to the coastline for all. Let's hope it does not come to that. The sun dial has been a popular tourist attraction for many years and it appears that it is now lost in favor of private rights established long after the sun dial was built... Thanks for the tips anyway.

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AlS wrote: The east side of the peninsula is easier to navigate along the rocky beach to bypass the gate to the sun dial.  By "easy to navigate" do you mean that the path is straightforward, or that the trail is not inclined or uneven?
I am trying to figure out what people mean when they talk about the skill level for a hike?
Is an expert hike long, include actual climbing, dangerous in some way?
I would like to get out more, but I am not sure what to expect with some of these hikes.

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I have not hiked this for about 5 years, so it might have changed.  Mid-tide or lower allowed a fairly easy hike along the beach on the east side until I found a way upwards (west) to the subdivision.  I wore old tennis shoes and carried no walking stick.
As a reference for ability - I have hiked Tetakowi from the road side. I found it easy, but strenuous going up.  Descent was tense for me.

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Why was going down tense? Is this because the incline was so severe going up?

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Why tense? Loose material. And perhaps bifocal glasses that make depth perception when looking down different.

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