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 Posted: Sat May 16th, 2020 03:22 am
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why do people believe in conspiracy theories?? maybe these 2 article can help us understand  why there is so much misinformation, distrust, confusion!


!Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories? | Psychology Today


Here's Why People Believe In Conspiracy Theories | Time

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They're trained when young - Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and worse - God.

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nice guy, that was a bold and profound statement, that has left me reeling, as a believer in our Lord!!!!! maybe these pasted articles can shed some light!


Why do some people overcome their belief in the Easter bunny, the tooth fairy, and Santa Claus, but The Easter Bunny and Santa Claus

 Some thoughts for the science-mindednot in gods? - Quora


Existence of God - Wikipedia




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Nice guy is full of misinformation, observe his post here on this thread....denouncing God, and then catch his post on the Lions, tigers and bears thread, where he blames God..now that is confliction..which probably is dominate in his life.

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johnmoore, great point! maybe if "nice guy" phrased his blame on God to Mother Nature it would have been far more acceptable!
but this is a perfect example of how a intended explanation is misinterpreted and misunderstood, thus creating doubt and suspicion, creating conspiracy theories!
God and Mother Nature are often confused!!! some believing they are one in the same others two vastly different concepts!


there is validity and root to "nice guys" post, Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ! Easter is the celebration of his crucifixion and resurrection! 
how it was turned around to santa clause bringing gifts flying to us in a magical sled pulled by reindeer, as well as the Easter bunny and Easter eggs, are rooted in pagan beliefs!! 
i believe this was his point! probably a well observed point!


lets try to focus on current misinformation, doubt, mistrust and conspiracy theories, now that we have a POSSIBLE root!

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"lets try to focus on current misinformation, doubt, mistrust and conspiracy theories, now that we have a POSSIBLE root!"
When The Day comes, it will be much easier to Monday morning quarterback.....now it is all guess work, what is and what is not misinformation. What is "misinformation" to one, may not be to another. Good luck with that.

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not always so!!
you made a great observation in your post here!

 bullshipper also in his post #408 on the other "corona virus" thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


this is how the truth can be separated from misinformation!!!!!!!!!!


the BASICS of journalism have been lost; references IE; bibliographic, biographical!!


 Citing Sources - Journalism & New Media Studies - LibGuides at St. Joseph's College of New York--Brooklyn




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i am pasting information provided by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) it was published in March 2018. it is relevant and informative to the wave of misinformation currently attributed to our current situation!

Countering False Information on Social Media in Disasters and Emergencies, March 2018

i am also pasting information provided by United Nations Education Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)

 journalism_fake_news_disinformation_print_friendly_0.pdf

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Why so much Misinformation?

Most misinformation is a result of the informer being agenda driven, planned, purposely promoted, looking for a result it was intended to achieve.

Some misinformation is a result of poor research, yet innocent and just ill informed people.

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What we have happening in the US right now, is the federal government (President Trump) telling us one thing, acting differently, and then we have the medical and scientific community with a totally different stance. Doctors and scientists saying one thing, and some politicians saying another.....mis-information from ignorant minds. The scientists do not have a financial motive behind their recommendations, they stem from research and educated guesses. The politicians are looking at the financial issues, and their re-election.

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There is no departure from truth between Trump and his Scientific staff. They do have differing opinions of how these truths need to be addressed. In the end, Trumps is the only one that counts, that will not change until Fauci is elected President. Trump is running an entire Country, Fauci's jobs are pretty much defined as virussentric. The real issue, which most folks do not want to address, is the differing of opinions amongst the Medical/Scientific community, nation wide.

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johnmoore wrote: The real issue, which most folks do not want to address, is the differing of opinions amongst the Medical/Scientific community, nation wide.

apples with apples, oranges with oranges! 


i trust my general practitioner MD, but i know i would NOT allow him to preform heart or brain surgery on me! nor would any good physician perform procedures beyond their capabilities!


the problem and issue is a pandemic virus! the physicians and scientists WE SHOULD LISTEN to should be EXPERTS in that field! the physicians, scientists working for the CDC, the FDA, HHS, and WHO fit that description!!
they all have made similar suggestions and protocol!


can mistakes be made in these institutions and agencies, of course they are human! these institutions and agencies have made mistakes and have corrected them!

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My point is: Frankie, I know what TV system you have in your home, access to every channel in the world....go to any of the so called news channels. They ALL claim to have experts in the field we are discussing, spend an afternoon channel surfing and in that time you will find many, many, differing of opinions concerning this issue....creating mass confusion......All this by the Experts!!

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The "scientists" are also covering their butts, just in case. Many of them would keep the country shut down until we all went down the tubes.

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hahahaha! i do!!! 
many are entertaining and have a great bed side manor!
 however i am intelligent enough to realize if they are counter to the suggestions and protocols of the majority of the ESTABLISHED institutions and agencies, i can change channels or observe them for entertainment!


the last time i checked Dr's, Drew, Oz and Phil are not epidemiologists! they are TV entertainers, addicted to their popularity!!!!!!!!!!!!


they are the fill in 24 hour news channels, that don't even have JOURNALIST in MOST cases as their hosts!


we are now a product of an instant gratification society, consumed with reality TV programming!


what was only a short time ago tabloid press found at the check outs at the grocery stores, has become the 24 hour news!


how many if any of these popular hosts have been awarded a "PULITZER PRIZE"!!!!!!!

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There is no doubt that there are some highly skilled doctors that we should listen too, but with something this deadly to our health, or mental health, our wallet and our future, its hard for us not to doubt in which way to turn.
Who has faced something like this, really?
Being just a few months into this there is a tremendous lack of understanding on its long term effects, and much less on better ways to treat people, how to work to cure our economy, our source for food, our schooling system, our social norms like dating, so everyone should have a right to be heard, because there really are no experts on something this new.

We are just gonna have to keep looking for better cure, and do our best until we find something that will feed on this bug faster than it is feeding on us.


Until then, there will be a lot of agendas, theories, mistakes being made, and of course misinformation, more now than before, because never before have we been able to misinform each other with unlimited access using the internet.

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#16, Appreciate what you said, and how you said it. This is a first go round, not only for the Governments of the World, but for most of the Medical/Scientific community..We will learn from it, no one is to blame for it, (other than poor handling by China), certainly not Trump, as to his handling of it, he too has had to learn as he goes. Not to get political, but under all the circumstances, I feel Trump and his Administration and Med/Sci, advisors have done a good job.

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We have the most cases in the world and we were the last ones to be "surprized", so I lean the other way on that debate. But a debate on that is really counterproductive at this point in time.

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johnmoore wrote: This is a first go round, not only for the Governments of the World, but for most of the Medical/Scientific community..

this is hardly the first go around for most of the Governments and the Medical/Scientific community have dealt with a pandemic's for decades!! the swine and avian flues,SARS EBOLA are only a few years back!
the CDC, FDA, WHO, ect;, ect' have warned of a global pandemics also for decades and as recent as the end of 2019!


this is nothing new!! what is new is the failure for all Governments and their people to cooperate in a common goal to defeat this monster!


it has become an envious competition of sorts for treatment, a vaccine! does it matter what country has the best test or what country creates the the vaccine!


now is the time for GLOBAL unification to fight a common enemy! there will be plenty of time after to sort out the failings!

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Such a Utopian point of view. Have you ever been to China? Really been & lived there? For months at a time?

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