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Would you drive from Hermosillo on Rt 14-17 to Agua Prieta
   
   
   
   
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Steverhnm
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With all this stuff about cartels, etc, I was wondering what your opinions are (not that anyone here has opinions-just kidding) regarding the drive from Hermosillo on Rt 14 to 17 North to Agua Prieta.  I love Mexico and have not seen enough of it but I also don't want to do something totally stupid like driving down a road where I am not wanted or expected to be.  

Given that, these appear to be two roads highly traveled and reasonably populated (this is a guess on my part) so an American tourist in a 2014 Ford pickup truck may not raise too many eyebrows.  Just want to explore a little more on my way back and have an alternate route.  I have taken route 2 over to Agua Prieta and was comfortable with that drive.

What do you think?  Is this an acceptable alternate route for a tourist?  My Spanish is poor but I get by with it.  Driving remote isolated roads for someone that does not have a purpose to be in that are is most likely not a good idea in my opinion.  But well traveled roads (while there will always be some sort of risk-just like in the US) I would assume to be OK to drive in the state of Sonora.

Any recommendations?  Thanks ahead of time for sharing.

Last edited on Sat Nov 9th, 2019 02:37 pm by Steverhnm

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See our web site at http://riosonora.com/ for more info on that route. Note that this route is outside of the free zone so a vehicle permit is required. This route is west of the route where the recent cartel attack took place.

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Thanks, I did not realize it was outside of the Free Zone. I assume a TIP on a car is the same as a TIP on a boat? I had a vehicle TIP in the early 2004 at one time, properly surrendered when I left. Yes, I understand where that happened but also felt that was a different road quite away from Rt 17.

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Car tip is different because it is only valid for as long as your tourist permit or residency documents are valid-it is not a 10 year permit like a boat or RV TIP.

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You can still get an Only Sonora permit I think. The Rio Sonora route is interesting and scenic, highly recommended. I have not been in quite a few years, don't know about safety. Seems like every few miles there is another village with a mission built in the 1500s.

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Problem with Only Sonora is you can't turn it in anywhere except Nogales and Empalme. If returning soon it is not an issue. Think cost is the same as All mexico which can be turned in at any border crossing.

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I have never paid for Sonora only in Mexico.

Snow and ice can be a travel problem on this road in the winter.

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Bart.  RE your post about turning in a Sonora Only permit.  Some years back I got one at the check point south of Empalme and at that time, they told me that I could only turn it in at K21.  Has that changed?

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You might be right but assumed that if they would issue at Empalme it could be turned in there too. Know you can't turn in at Naco or AP

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Things change and I have not had a Sonora Only permit for a long time. It used to be free or maybe a small fee. You could not turn it in at km98, only at km21. Again, things change. Maybe someone with recent experience with Sonora Only can provide up to date info. I think either permit expires when your visa or temporal expires. If you have a permanente, you cannot get the permits.

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Thank you for the insight. I hope others continue to hit the Voting Poll, it is anonymous and interesting to say the least. I might stick to Rio Sonora for my extra excursions at this time and on or in the early Fall or Late Spring until my Spanish gets better and who knows what the political climate might be then.

Regardless, I will continue to enjoy Mexico, as a guest, and all it's wonderful people and sights and places to explore. While you can't protect yourself from being in the wrong place at the wrong time - you can't do that in the US either unless you live in a cocoon. I choose to know my world respectfully, enjoy other cultures, and live each day the best I can. I am on bonus days-a second chance....

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Personally I would take the highway HMO to Imuris to Cananea then to Ap.
I have traveled the roads you referenced.
Not something I would attempt without a good grasp of Spanish and would take a couple of Mexican guys with me.
Times have changed.
Tim

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Bummer, thanks for the advice, I will probably take it for now.  Maybe when my Spanish is better....  I have taken the route you speak of (Imuris to Cananea)-did not have a problem with it.

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Steverhnm wrote: Bummer, thanks for the advice, I will probably take it for now.  Maybe when my Spanish is better....  I have taken the route you speak of (Imuris to Cananea)-did not have a problem with it.

Ah, go ahead and take the Route you were asking about...There is Nothing in life that makes you feel really alive than "Cheating Death"... And, if you Die, you can die happy because you died doing something you wanted to do.. 

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And if you are really a thrill seeker, rent a flashy SUV with tinted windows for the trip.



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