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 Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 06:44 pm
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Folks,


I'm in town a few days and have noted some oil consumption. I have a basic 2006 Nissan Frontier XE w/ 80k miles in outstanding condition.  It has the 2.5l 4cyl and 5spd manual transmission combo.


My engine bay is very clean and I cannot locate a leak. However, I lost a not so significant amount of oil in the last two weeks which included my drive from Arizona. I'd like to have it looked over before a journey to Alamos or Arizona.


Does anyone have experience with the local Nissan dealership in Guaymas? It's a valid question... My 2007 Toyota Sienna XLE was losing oil last spring and it took the Obregon Toyota Dealership 3 days to determine it was a bad seal on the Oil Filter... An Oil Filter they had put on the previous week.  Frustrating to be holed up in Obregon for 3 days over such a minor issue. Albeit the leak was only under hard acceleration where pressure built permitting escape. 


Hence, not wanting my truck holed up somewhere unnecessarily. As it stands though, I can't determine the source of any leaks and the exhaust is clean (not blue like excessive oil burn).


Please don't turn this into a bashing thread with lots of hearsay.... Only looking for those who've had personal experience.

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We bought our new car there and the service department so far for us is excellent.

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Thank you very much Guzzi! I'll see if they can have a look at it.

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If you place a piece of white paper near the exhaust, rev it, oil escaping worn rings will spot the paper.

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A relatively quick check of the internet reveals that that engine, which was put in many Nissan vehicles that year, had pistons that were too large for the cylinder bore. It also needed an ECM reprogram that was apparently a recall. Both conditions lead to increased oil consumption, which was apparently common in this engine at 70k miles and up.

Read this link on a Nissan help board. It happens to be a Nissan Altima board, but you probably have the same engine.

https://x.nissanhelp.com/forums/altima/16259-06-altima-burning-oil.html

The ECM problem sounds particularly problematic. Some claim it can lead to catalytic converter material being leaked into the rings, as the CC fails.


I dont think I would trust the Guaymas Nissan dealership to fix this. But, hey, take it in and see what they say. If it is truly a warranty thing, I still think I would prefer to have it fixed in the US. If the car was purchased in the US, probably only a US dealer or authorized service center would be authorized to fix it under warranty.

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Hook.

Thanks for the information. Yes the base Frontier XE uses the same 2.5L Altima engine.

A very thorough search of Frontier Truck Forums didn't reveal anyone complaining about this specific issue w/ the 2.5L application in the Frontier trucks. Nevertheless, I did see some ECM service bulletins.



BS, I warmed up the truck to eliminate condensation. Then I placed the white paper (a good yard of it) behind the exhaust. Did several engine revs of 30 seconds or more at 3500-4000rpm... Nothing. No oil. No spotting whatsoever.


I have an appointment with Nissan on Monday and I'll see if they have access to recall information for my VIN. If Guaymas Nissan can't find anything, I'll take the issue up with a Nissan dealership in Tucson.




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So..how was your visit to Nissan

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will do a followup next monday to see if the oil consumption is better. they cleaned up my pcv (i asked them to replace it, but perhaps they didn't have one?).

they insisted on using 10w-40, despite the owners manual calling for 5W-30. Well, I'm consuming so the heavier weight should help a little.

again, I'll reserve judgement after the follow-up.

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How were the costs? I have 3 Fords that I've had worked on by the Ford dealer next to Nissan and have always had good results. - even if I had to bring the parts down from the US because not the same clutch, etc (Escort) in cars here. My 2017 Escape bought here new is made in Spain, not quite the exact same parts as the US mfg model. I'm looking at buying next a Nissan model, because a drive to HMO for Honda, etc is not exciting anymore.

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My wife and I have owned two Nissans in our lifetimes (the first was a truck in 83 when the Datsun name was being retired) and they were great vehicles. The other one was an Infiniti that was early 2000s.

But Nissan reliability has really gone into the toilet, based on reports from owners in the Consumer Report surveys; which are the largest, independent surveys of used vehicles. They haven't been good for several years now. Very surprising for a Japanese car company........but I guess they really aren't a Japanese car company anymore.

They used to be RIGHT THERE in reliability, with Toyota and Honda.

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odwyerpw With over 80K on your Nissan and the warmer climate down here 10-40 is about right it's not a spring chicken anymore. Looking forward to your followup.

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Hook wrote: My wife and I have owned two Nissans in our lifetimes (the first was a truck in 83 when the Datsun name was being retired) and they were great vehicles. The other one was an Infiniti that was early 2000s.

But Nissan reliability has really gone into the toilet, based on reports from owners in the Consumer Report surveys; which are the largest, independent surveys of used vehicles. They haven't been good for several years now. Very surprising for a Japanese car company........but I guess they really aren't a Japanese car company anymore.

They used to be RIGHT THERE in reliability, with Toyota and Honda.
My son and daugther have a 2005 and 2016 they both bought new. Big improvements over the new VW and Dodge they had before. No problems on either.

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As promised here is my followup:


1. On the initial visit, we found that the 'key' for the 'lockable' wheel lugs was not put back by Nissan in the USA when the oil was last changed (they always remove the wheel because it's so much easier to access the oil filter). Pedro the mechanic had to forcibly remove mine. So, I ordered a new set of lockable lugs with the key (about $25usd) and they were here this week.  They will forcibly remove the other 3 later today and I will have lockable wheel lugs again on each wheel. So kudos to Guaymas Nissan for helping me out with that one.


2. I had him look at my windshield washer reservoir as it would not hold water/washer fluid. It's buried behind a wheel well liner on the side as the Oil Filter. He found the reservoir was fine but that pump had a worn interface... He tried a JBL type adhesive, and warned it might not hold... but if it doesn't, at least you'll know the reservoir is good and you just have to get a pump... It's common and I can get it off of any Nissan. Well , the adhesive didn't hold, so I'll get another pump.. Might be easier just to get a whole reservoir and pump assembly off of a wrecked frontier (a good number of them in Tucson and Phoenix that see delivery truck duty) when I'm back up North. Anyway, that was a free diagnosis.


3. The real issue was the oil consumption. PVC valve was thoroughly cleaned and oil and filter changed. Because of engine age/mileage, it was recommended I go to 10W-40. The result after a week and quite a bit of driving (made a few trips, so put about 300 miles)? No consumption whatsoever. The level was completely true! So Guaymas Nissan gets a high-five for fixing my egregious oil consumption. Naturally, I'll check it often just to keep an eye on it.


4. They did a check on all of the fluids and everything was on point and good color/smell.


Today's quick 3 minute revision was a courtesy (no charge).
Overall, I'm satisfied.

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great news for you. Try http://www.Rockauto.com for your car parts real good prices and top quality. If you want new.

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Thanks for the report.. I also have a Nissan and i take it to them for everything... great people work there, and office help also got a guy from their Body Shop to assist with my poor Spanish.Service,price and communication was fantastic, I also use the Chevy and VW dealers for most...but for normal up keep i go to Tyre-Plus...so easy to get repairs by QUALIFIED persons/dealers in Guaymas.

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