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 Posted: Thu May 24th, 2018 03:22 pm
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Angel
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We came down from the USA yesterday and a relative came with us so we stopped at KM 21 to request a FMM (aka Tourist permit) for him. We are Mexican and we went with him to request the permit to be of any assistance if needed. For our surprise the immigration officer requested, almost demanded, to see our Mexican passports. Our National Voter ID did not suffice. When we provided our passport, he ran them through the machine, and stamped them. We were not carrying them in our persons so we went to the car and got them.


So you if you are also Mexican or Temporary/Permanent resident who usually doesn't stop at KM 21, and are tagging along with your friends/family at KM 21, be prepared in case you get the same officer. Or maybe it is a "new thing"? Being Mexican, obviously we never stop there, so we did not know.

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 Posted: Thu May 24th, 2018 03:39 pm
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Wy Ynot
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The luck of the draw on any given day. They are still not the butts the newbies can be on the gringolandia side. Job justification. If they put some of those wannabees into a designated job, we wouldn't need so many hard working border patrol out there. 99.99% good but those few give us all a bad name!! IMHO of course. Ynot

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 Posted: Thu May 24th, 2018 04:50 pm
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danelo
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I think whom ever worked there must have been confused. I just do not see the reason for what they did.

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 Posted: Sun May 27th, 2018 07:52 pm
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There is no reason. If you are a mexican citizen at the 21, a voters ID should suffice. The guy might have been on a control spree. And why they would stamp a mexican passport seems really strange.

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 Posted: Sun May 27th, 2018 09:21 pm
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Every time I go north I have to show my US passport and they scan it and register every crossing that I make. Why would it be surprising if Mexico wanted something similar?

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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2018 12:01 am
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I did not realize that a Mexican in Mexico even needed a passport. I know they get one for a one year period so that they can apply for a US visa/border crossing card but most people don't have them.
I too would think that a voter ID would be all that is required as long as you are not on the border.
Seems strange to me or maybe I am not understanding the situation.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 04:46 am
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My friends got checked for their Visas after the 21km and had to go back to get them.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 09:48 am
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Where and why were they stopped Brian?  We had always stopped for permits in the past but have gotten a bit lazy lately.  Maybe will stop on the way down tomorrow.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 03:19 pm
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They are required to scan and make a note of Foreigners going north and south, but to request a mexican at an immigration office that mainly deals with foreigners seems a bit strange. Also, a passport is NOT required of any mexican, that is in mexico. Neither is a voters credencial. But then again, many of the people working at the 21, have different ideas of what the job requirements are. Depends on the day, the person, and their mood. There is little consistency.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 05:40 pm
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Just wanted to pop in and share a story, I mainly just lurk here before I visit SC in the summers to see how things are going... I live in the state of Chihuahua and a few years ago I owned a "fronterizo", meaning that I need a permit to travel south. We took off from El Paso to Nogales with the plan of getting my "permiso" at Banjercito in Nogales, I took all the paperwork that I usually need to get my permit but the fine gentleman that night (10 PM) was having none of it, he needed another proof of residency which I didn't had, so I had to wait until 9:00 AM for HSBC to open and request a copy of my bank statement, when I went the next morning the teller didn't even ask for the second copy and just gave me my permit. I lost 12+ hours of travel + overnight expenses because of them. Now I own a "nacional" so I don't have to deal with them again.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 06:22 pm
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Anyone come down in the last few days to verify whether or not Mexican Immigration still has the checkpoint up and running in the area of Cibuta??

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 06:52 pm
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They did not the day before the original poster came down.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 07:17 pm
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For such an easy process, the benefit far exceeds the downside of not having correct paperwork. What is wrong with you people? Do it right.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 07:48 pm
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Agreed, but most people I speak with don't even realize they need to stop and get a Mexican tourist visa. There is some confusion between Sonora free zone for vehicles and for tourist visas.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2018 10:15 pm
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I drove here yesterday and there were no check points along Rt 15 at all.  Seemed strange since there always seems to be at least one between Nogales and  San Carlos.  

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