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Be advised there is now a $50 peso parking fee on Saturdays and Sundays.

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Not for me.

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i am stopped at the entrance as everyone else and i have never paid a parking fee!!! 
i have frequented the 2 existing establishments for years and have always enjoyed the ambiance of the location! that said it has become, considering fees for parking, food and drinks costs, extremely pricey!
i am quite aware if you want to dance you have to pay the fiddler!

i will continue frequenting the 2 establishments, just not as often as i would like to!!









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Yup, I don't need to go there that badly. Too many other nice places in town for less $$$

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$2.50 it could be worse

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Jimmy, more important that what these two establishments are charging, is where are you getting 20 to 1 exchange rate pesos to dollars. That's something that will really peak interest.

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Ditto #4.  We have soooo many choices of good restaurants here in San Carlos.

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johnmoore wrote: Jimmy, more important that what these two establishments are charging, is where are you getting 20 to 1 exchange rate pesos to dollars. That's something that will really peak interest.

Yeah, the best you could probably get right now is 17.5 or so. That's about 2.85 to park. A 250% increase from last year.


Sometimes the workarounds work, sometimes they don't. Contrary to what keeps being posted by you-know-who, the business cards from Frank and Lisa havent worked for a couple years. And sometimes you can boldly drive through without stopping and the guy wont chase you down, that's for sure. But sometimes he has an obstruction there.


It really isnt fair to blame "these two establishments". It is not Frank and Lisa's doing. It's the landowner. I guess that is the Coppels, at this point?


I suspect they will begin charging it on Mexican holidays, too.

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new price and no "la salsa" or bonifacios"???

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Just ride your dirt bikes down the beach and avoid the entrance. Pretty simple.

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Keep in mind, the restaurants are not charging the fee, it is private land from the road to the beach, the owners of the old club med collect the fee.

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Does anyone, know for sure, where the collected money is going? I can't believe the Coppel family needs it.

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That's the Law of Money - People who don't need more, get more.

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Well looks like I will find another place to spend my Pesos

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I am glad that there is someone who can determine who "has enough" money.  Someone else could easily determine that most if not every ex pat here fits that description.  Decide to go and pay or not your choice as well as it is their choice.  It is called respect for private property.  As soon as you start giving your excess bedrooms to someone rent free I will start listening.

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It is good business to cover your expenses, the parking fees pay for the guards at the entrance, trash pickup on the road and road maintenance as limited as it maybe.

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Vaquero said "I am glad that there is someone who can determine who "has enough" money"

No one can say they have enough, but I would almost bet they are unaware of the parking fees.....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-11-15/mexico-s-coppel-brothers-emerge-with-16-billion-fortune

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It's Mexican economics 101. When income is down (due to the closure of the biggest draw, La Salsa) you RAISE the prices.

I can't imagine this HELPS business at the Peso and Sunset.

50 pesos.....seems like more than enough to "cover expenses" with the pay scales in Mexico.


Or maybe this is the Coppel's way of winnowing down the demand for the eventual closure of all the businesses out there?

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I never go on Saturday or Sunday anyway. Too crowded for me.

Plus I'm sure part of the fee is to cover the cost of cleaning up all the trash the people leave behind on the beach.

Regardless of the "rules in Mexico" about beaches being public I don't think the Coppel family are going to give away the valuable asset they bought at the old Club Med.......the beautiful beaches!

Apart from them being very successful and wealthy Mexican folks, they own and operate some splendid resorts in Mazatlan so they know what they are doing.

Their Emerald Beach Resort is a top of the line destination, well run and desirable. As we all know some rules mean nothing in Mexico and especially for the IPs (important people) which the Coppel's are part of.

I'll be happy to see a 5 Star resort built on that property some day which will benefit San Carlos immensely. I only hope Soggy Peso and Sunset are part of their finished project one day.

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I was there last weekend, and there may have been between 15-20 vehicles all day. That's a little over $50 USD. There were two people at the gate. Yep someone is getting rich. lol.

Small price that I am glad to pay to go have lunch and sit on the beach drinking cervezas.

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If I had the passion for either of the 2 establishments left there, as some of you do, I would not blink at
having to fork over 50 pesos, or even more to go there. I do not begrudge anyone for being willing to pay that fee.

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50 pesos is TWO BEERS, John! :X

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Excellent Observation.

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If you cant afford 50pesos you dont belong in sancarlos

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vsc, if you can't afford a trust, or a fee simple, You don't belong in San Carlos.

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Town owned beach parking lots in Dennis, Massachusetts charge $25 daily parking on weekends and there are lines waiting for spots. Never heard of any complaints there about the price!

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kiteboarder wrote: Town owned beach parking lots in Dennis, Massachusetts charge $25 daily parking on weekends and there are lines waiting for spots. Never heard of any complaints there about the price!


Being from New England / Upstate NY, I can assure you we complained plenty about the high costs of going to the beach and the exclusivity of it.  But, almost the entire eastern seaboard from Maine to Florida is privately held land, what can you do? 


Back to the Coppel Beach Parking, I understand the logic behind the $50mxn charge for parking.... They want to attract folks who will spend money on the establishments; instead of those who bring all of their food/beer in a cooler and presumably leave allot of it behind in the form of waste on the beach. 



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Well, I would say the 50 peso charge is having the opposite effect...it is repelling me from going to those restaurants, and I will more likely go to the beach with a cooler.
But I won’t leave trash.



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