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 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 03:50 pm
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For those coming from the east, is crossing at Douglas and taking  Hwy 2 to Hwy 15 a good option as opposed to crossing at Nogales?  Is it any faster? Thanks.

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snow can be a sporadic problem

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Thank you for the reply. If weather is not an issue ( spring or summer), is it otherwise safe, good highway, faster, etc. ?

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how adventurous are you? I travel this route by preference; my wife refuses to travel MX2. Lots of 2 lane with 20 mph double trailer semis, and breathtaking drop-offs with lots of descansos in lieu of guardrails. I once counted descansos/capillas and there are an average of >1/mile between AP and Imuris.

it can carve a couple of hours off the trip (esp returning; the border crossings at Douglas and Naco are much faster than Nog) , and the govt has been improving the road and adding passing lanes on the long uphills. however, on my last 2 trips, I saw a pothole big enough to swallow an antifreeze jug and a horse wandering loose in the middle of the road, and got momentarily airborne off a spot where the crew quit paving for the day but didn't quite mark that the pavement ended.

one alternative is to go north out of Bisbee on 80 far enough that you avoid all the Fort Huachuca/Sierra Vista stoplights and traffic and then turn west on Hwy 82 for fairly straight shot to the border at Nog.

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Thanks. I think I have the picture. We may try it in March when we come back to SC.

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I have traveled the route a few times, I like the drive from the interstate to Douglas, don't think it is faster, but very scenic, most times turn south off the interstate at Bensen and go to Patagonia/Nogales.

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We normally do I-10 to Benson/Patagonia/Nogales. I just wanted another route and wondered about Hwy 80 off of I-10 to Douglas and then if Hwy 2 to 15 was passable, safe, etc. We have never crossed anywhere other than Mariposa.

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We were considering going back East to El Paso using the Hwy 2 and crossing at Naco, but have now decided to go back crossing at our usual Mariposa border crossing due to the narrow and winding mountain roadways on Hwy 2 and lack of pavement in some areas.  Also Google maps shows that it’s only 15 minutes faster using Hwy 2.  It just doesn’t look like a pleasant trip and the limited services available along that route was another negative factor.

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Thanks. Probably more prudent to stick with 15 to Nogales.

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barato wrote: how adventurous are you? I travel this route by preference; my wife refuses to travel MX2. Lots of 2 lane with 20 mph double trailer semis, and breathtaking drop-offs with lots of descansos in lieu of guardrails. I once counted descansos/capillas and there are an average of >1/mile between AP and Imuris.

it can carve a couple of hours off the trip (esp returning; the border crossings at Douglas and Naco are much faster than Nog) , and the govt has been improving the road and adding passing lanes on the long uphills. however, on my last 2 trips, I saw a pothole big enough to swallow an antifreeze jug and a horse wandering loose in the middle of the road, and got momentarily airborne off a spot where the crew quit paving for the day but didn't quite mark that the pavement ended.

one alternative is to go north out of Bisbee on 80 far enough that you avoid all the Fort Huachuca/Sierra Vista stoplights and traffic and then turn west on Hwy 82 for fairly straight shot to the border at Nog.

Sounds exactly like Baja.

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japasp wrote: Thanks. Probably more prudent to stick with 15 to Nogales.
Don't be afraid to try it.

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If you are not towing anything it's a wonderful drive.I'd even go so far as to recommend turning it into a Ruta Rio Sonora trip and not catch I-15 until you reach Hermosillo. Very beautiful drive through some nice towns and several river crossings.

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Thanks for the information. What route would I take? Are there any "safety" concerns other than maybe the roadway?.

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I would not recommend taking the River Route at this time. They are repairing the road and it is really bad for the first hour or so south out of Cananea. Also be aware that this road is not in the Hassle Free Zone so you will need a permit.

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Thanks for the heads up.......the permit would be a deal breaker for me.

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