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today 10/10/17 at 12:15 pm i received a call from ruben pinto!! he wanted me to post the following;
* he is vacationing in the sierras of jalisco! 

* he nor the comisaria of san carlos have ever received any monetary donations for the topes or any other projects!
* he has no idea where the alleged donations are or where they where deposited!
* he never posted on Facebook
* he did thank those of the municipality who gave minimal help!

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Did anyone donate, contribute, give, designate, tithe, pledge, grant, bestow,?.........yawn......baca

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Thank you for the moment of levity Frankie.
Best phone transcript from an outgoing politician ever.

I'm on vacation and I don't know where the money went.

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baca and GG where those who solicited the contributions, baca brags of the smart ones who gave! those two baca and GG should be asked where the money is!

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Frankie
That is a damned good question.  So I will ask it.
Mr Baca:  
Did you receive donations?  If so much how much was received?  Where is the money?What is the plan to return any finds received to the donors?
You have no bona fides to expend these funds on public works issues-you are not a public official so any funds received under your control or others of the same ilk should be refunded.
I expect a public reply this time.  Be advised if you decide to respond by PM, I WILL publish your response.  Therefore, no privacy on this issue since funds are involved.
If I do not have a public response from you in 48 hours, I will terminate your account.
You beat up all the members of this forum and made numerous disparaging remarks about those who did not contribute, even though you never answered my question on where and how to contribute.
Ball is in your court.
PS:  If any member made a contribution to the topes effort, please state how and how much.  You may respond by PM if you wish.

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post number three asked the question no one responded does that mean no one contributed. if baca has to answer publicly shouldnt everyone

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VisitorSanCarlos wrote: post number three asked the question no one responded does that mean no one contributed. if baca has to answer publicly shouldnt everyone
That is possibly because  the donors who contributed have much more ethics and trustworthy personal moral than those who promoted this scam and called names to those who , like me, were against such contributions, once again trying to ask the victims for endless proofs against very very low profiles which unfortunately roam in town with sheep skin .

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#7, Just like on your forum, no one cares what you state, or ask, you are tolerated there, not here.

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vsc, unmask yourself!!!! or shut up!!!!!!!
it is becoming so obvious who you are!!

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frankie wrote: vsc, unmask yourself!!!! or shut up!!!!!!!
it is becoming so obvious who you are!!

I would say to VSC , learn how a free board unmasks the shit floating in our polluted sea. 10% of the free debate on really upsetting topics would never see the light at Viva, avoid polluting a truly free speech forum , like frankie suggest please go back to your virtual REGNVM , MAGNVS VIVA FORVM IMPERATOR AMERICANVS REX.

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VCS, quote from the wizard of oz ;
 pay no attention to the man behind the curtain; "i am the great and powerful oz"!!!!

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Just heard from my viva link, he/she states gadsby posted "Please post here if you made a contribution to the projects."

What could be his motive, to return the funds? To laugh at those that donated? To keep baca off his site, and on this one? To keep baca off both sites?

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A well crafted statement by baca:

"Donation: It is given with no expectation of any benefit in return except may a "warm fuzzy feeling" for having donated.

Contribution: Is given expecting some benefit in the future. The "warm fuzzy feeling" is optional."
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Richard C. Baca, MIM T-Bird '72

Feast your eyes on "Donation", this post was written about a month ago. "Donation", how prophetic, throw your money away, with no expectation........what did baca know 30 days ago, that we didn't?

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geez guys ask a few questions never attacked or put anybody down and you go on the attack hardly what i would all friendly

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Tick, tick, tick

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Perhaps not a bad time to become acquainted with whom the clock is apparently ticking for.

Mr. Baca refused to be interviewed for this story after given multiple chances to do so.

http://worldsaquarium.com/blog/south-of-the-border-land-of-disorder-part-1/


Just out of curiosity has VSC ever denied being the forum nazi from Viva?

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i am curious as to what i have done to offend anyone on this forum i have a total of 81 posts according to the post count by my name if i have offended you with any one of the 81 please copy and paste it for everyone to review
i asked if there were any results of any of the lawsuits mentioned never got a response
i asked if anyone gave up any money to the pinto project never got an answer so i guess i am more than a little confused and my name should make no more difference than that of the other six thousand members of the forum but when they are required to give up their information i will too

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VSC, so you don't deny being who you are accused of being?

For obvious reasons people want to, and I would contend, deserve to know if the accusations are true.

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VisitorSanCarlos wrote: i am curious as to what i have done to offend anyone on this forum i have a total of 81 posts according to the post count by my name if i have offended you with any one of the 81 please copy and paste it for everyone to review
i asked if there were any results of any of the lawsuits mentioned never got a response
i asked if anyone gave up any money to the pinto project never got an answer so i guess i am more than a little confused and my name should make no more difference than that of the other six thousand members of the forum but when they are required to give up their information i will too

Knowing that (or if) you are a GG alias will explain how offended many of Us are with such a ... profile, just being a Baca's pal hits you frontally... and add to be the IMPERATOR of a forum that it's ruled in the worst possible way and beyond free speech laws is enough explanation of your remarkable misplacement in a truly free board. 

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Fov the record, Vince published libelous videos accusing me of wrongfully having John Poppel arrested for theft. Of course the accusation was true and Mr. Poppel was forced by court order after admitting to the crime to pay for the stolen goods. But NO! Mr. Vince Radice NEVER ONCE called me for an interview nor did he ever bother to come to my office to interview, even though he passes by there several times day! It is another of his outright lies that he tried to interview me! The John Poppel videos are pure libelous fabrication choreographed by both Vince and his wife using and manipulating that cantankerous old thief!

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I'd prefer to see a direct answer to post#6......

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Richard Baca wrote: Fov the record, Vince published libelous videos accusing me of wrongfully having John Poppel arrested for theft. Of course the accusation was true and Mr. Poppel was forced by court order after admitting to the crime to pay for the stolen goods. But NO! Mr. Vince Radice NEVER ONCE called me for an interview nor did he ever bother to come to my office to interview, even though he passes by there several times day! It is another of his outright lies that he tried to interview me! The John Poppel videos are pure libelous fabrication choreographed by both Vince and his wife using and manipulating that cantankerous old thief!
JAJAJAJAJA.... another strip to the big cat... tic tac tic tac tic tac...

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There is a special place in Hell for people like Mr. Baca, and I agree with post 22, shouldn't Mr. Baca respond to post #6?

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richard baca, you have 12 hours to respond, or it's bye bye baca bye bye!!!!

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frankie wrote: richard baca, you have 12 hours to respond, or it's bye bye baca bye bye!!!!
LOL, asume him gone already, Mr. Baca is taking the time to advice about very relevant topics like cell batteries, bus lines and the great treatment his relatives and himself  gives to sea turtles  ( THE SAME ONES THAT JAILS 81 YRS OLD GUYS per Vince report ), but any comment on Bart challenging questioning on his  Hono... well.. on him is simply not seen by his all good and noble eyes. ADIOS AMIGOU !!

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I knew John. He is dead now. He was so disgusted with how he was treated by Mr Baca that he moved from San Carlos. It was an old TV that stopped working. He set it on the curb. He did not steal it. Mr Baca knows most people will not fight injustice in Mexican courts but John stood up for his rights and was put in jail over this TV that might have been worth $10. Shame on you Baca.

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I have found this reading experience very disturbing. In an effort to explain away and defend in-laws, Baca has brought on himself the need to defend himself, due to constant denials, that most know to be truths. What is witnessed in the videos produced by Vince, provide all the reasoned statements, that Baca denies exist. First the case involving the in-laws, succinctly demonstrated. Secondly the case involving Baca, what a sad display of legal exuberance.

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On the subject of Mr. Poppel, (Vince couldn't even spell his name correctly!). not only did he steal the NEW TV set, Direct TV box and dish, but also his people did over US$ 3,000 worth of damage to the red roof tiles when they rushed to remove the dish before I caught them! Additionally, Mr. Poppel left owing three (3) months rent! But look at the carefully choreographed video that Vince and his wife produced! In that work of fiction, I am the bad guy... go figure! So, you might ask, "why didn't my client sue for the house damage and rent?" The reason is that in Mexico a theft is criminal and is prosecuted by the DA requiring proof or admitting to the crime. Property damage and unpaid rent is adjudicated in civil court and requires hiring a lawyer which my absentee landlord, for his own reasons, didn't want to do. So it doesn't matter that the perp was 81 years old, he was still a liar, cheat and thief, and he got off cheap! And look at the integrity of the "TV producer" he got to try to exonerate himself! Shame on you Vince Radice! 

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baca, again with the smoke and mirrors as jimmy in a post suggested of you!!
you are incapable of answering the the questions of post #6 and many others made of you!!!! 
you are a vicious and vindictive nihilistic delusional!
you currently have 9 1/2 hours you comply!! 

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Frankie...please stop reminding him and pressing him to answer.  ðŸ˜Ž.  He has nothing to say that we want to read.
Just let the clock run out and hope his account here gets closed.  ðŸ™ðŸ™

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Richard Baca wrote: On the subject of Mr. Poppel...So it doesn't matter that the perp was 81 years old, he was still a liar, cheat and thief, and he got off cheap! And look at the integrity of the "TV producer" he got to try to exonerate himself! Shame on you Vince Radice! 
SHAME ON YOU BACA !!! We have many flaws in our criminal courts true, however a principle that is well respected in the rest of Mexico is that IT IS FORBIDDEN to incarcerate anyone 75 yrs or older for minor felonies per Mexican law. ( house arrest is the option) AND YES JUDGES RESPECT THAT IN MEXICO ... but not here as I can see and especially when a rotten soul(s) with no principles wants to abuse of the older, weaker and defenseless "influencing" corrupt authorities to act against human rights observed in our law. You are just putting more nails in the coffin of your reputation.

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SHAME ON YOU BACA !!! We have many flaws in our criminal courts true, however a principle that is well respected in the rest of Mexico is that IT IS FORBIDDEN to incarcerate anyone 75 yrs or older for minor felonies per Mexican law. ( house arrest is the option) AND YES JUDGES RESPECT THAT IN MEXICO ... but not here as I can see and especially when a rotten soul(s) with no principles wants to abuse of the older, weaker and defenseless "influencing" corrupt authorities to act against human rights observed in our law. You are just putting more nails in the coffin of your reputation.

I didn't know about that law, that does make an absolutely bad action worse. John was a great guy. With a mind sharp as a knife! It always takes a lot of guts to go on the record with the camera rolling. RIP John

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baca's time is up!

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Just sat down with a friend of mine who has access to viva, our little buddy, baca, has taken his act on the road and landed on viva. Will be interesting to see how he is accepted there, especially when he is asked where the contributions went.....

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Richard Baca has posted regularly on Viva since 2008

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bombero wrote: Just sat down with a friend of mine who has access to viva, our little buddy, baca, has taken his act on the road and landed on viva. Will be interesting to see how he is accepted there, especially when he is asked where the contributions went.....
The Little Con Man (Mouth Piece)-(Carnival Barker) will be Well Received There. He and GG y Su Scoundrels are well respected there. King George has cultivated a Fine Relationship  with the "Sisters y Familia" so it can be said of King George and the Little Con Man........."Tu Ratas es Me Ratas".


I wonder if the Brother has found "Fresh Carne to devour" at his new, but "Hidden" Location???


A true Family of Carnivores out to devour the innocent.


Whatsya think Gunny? Did I hit close to the Mark?    

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So....... what is the answer to post #6?

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The answer my friend is blow'n in the wind, the answer is blow'n in the wind. Only the shadow knows, and of course Bart.

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bombero wrote: The answer my friend is blow'n in the wind, the answer is blow'n in the wind. Only the shadow knows, and of course Bart.
"What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men" "The Shadow Knows"..... and some on this Bd who have experienced it from the "Familia"

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390pony wrote: Baca claims he has been banned here.

SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MVNDI  .... All glory fades away, hope to see him banned for life not only in the virtual world but also from this soil. ( Mexican soil, I mean, they don't send the best they got in the US here lol ! )

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Damn! I guess I'll never know the answer to post #6. Summabick.

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I told you the answer. Xman, thats a little tough.

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He's been on Viva for quite some time, nothing new with his appearing there.

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johnmoore wrote: I told you the answer. Xman, thats a little tough.
Remind me your answer Jman, Baca et al should be back to where they belong ..and believe me he is not the only gringo, but a number of them, in addition to Jackson of course, which roam on this paradise with very dark profiles.

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just got a PM from Xolocinquli. Turns out that XMan is a Gringo Hater.

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Xico, I would hate to think you believe that San Carlos is only full of losers from the US. Most of us chose to come here because we love this place: the people, the culture, the natural beauty, etc. etc.

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maryt wrote: Xico, I would hate to think you believe that San Carlos is only full of losers from the US. Most of us chose to come here because we love this place: the people, the culture, the natural beauty, etc. etc.
I enjoy great friendship of people from the US and CAN, both here and NOB. I am not a gringo hater, in fact there are quite a few personal things that does not allow me to "trash" the US or even their society, have no reason to do it but in fact the contrary.
Regardless of where they are from, there are all sort of zombies roaming in SC , being gringo is not a guarantee of a honest way of living, here or on their recent past, but agree that excluding some remarkable profiles, most of the foreign people I call friends here are great persons; rarely I think they are different or from other part of the world when I call them friends. 

PS. Jimmy , you PM first with a very twisted interpretation of one of my posts, I Answered the same clarification I edited in there. You are welcome to join either classification you wish, you choose Senhor..

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The Liar Bails out...#Unmasked  #GringotrashinSanCarlos.


Frankly, Xolocinquli, I don't live in SC anymore because all that I had was taken over by my "Beloved Mexican Family" that I supported for 25 years. And when I was away for a while they moved in and took it for themselves.


#don'tinvestmoreinmexicothanyoucanaffordtoloose.

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Never invest in anything that you can not afford to lose. That is way, my homes are not an investment.

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That JAIMITO is what happens when you get a divorce, doesn't matter where they are from, and NOB you get your blood out also, so.. you "supported" your family?? did they were family or you just look at them like your employees??? now see who talks about exceptionalism... I really don't think you should vent those issues here AND again, You are welcome to join one side, or the other, of the line ; clearly you have chosen where to stay and NO we don't need your money in the country to live, go anywhere you wish.

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"AND again, You are welcome to join one side, or the other"

What are the sides you speak of?

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WHOA!!!!!!!! Don't fall into thread drift! This is about a vacationing Commisario and the financials of post#6...... The real issue is whether or not you guys are gonna get stupid and forget what the REAL gippen' is all about

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pavo, are you san carlos visitor cloned.....or one and the same?

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VisitorSanCarlos wrote: pavo is not me hes just another person who has stumbled into a closed den to be accused and abused what a group of ninnys

VSC, since you obnoxiously post here on a continual bases, that makes you a "ninny" !!!

P.S. VSC you hide in anonymity but your IP# can be traced!!
bad boy bad boy whatcha gona do when we come for you!!

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Xman, where did you go? What are the sides?

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Just remind me of your answer Jman , about which side of the line and which line is it, YOU CHOOSE LOL !

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frankie wrote: VisitorSanCarlos wrote: pavo is not me hes just another person who has stumbled into a closed den to be accused and abused what a group of ninnys

VSC, since you obnoxiously post here on a continual bases, that makes you a "ninny" !!!

P.S. VSC you hide in anonymity but your IP# can be traced!!
bad boy bad boy whatcha gona do when we come for you!!


Good one Frankie !! Cheers My friend.

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Either under, over, or walking.  Never sniffing, as it appears you do. Lol

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it seems as though obnoxiousness runs wild here i am my own person it seems like i have offended you X please review my postings and point out how i have done that this is the second or 3rd time i have made the request no response so far i cant apologize unless i know what i am expected to apologize for

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VSC, thick skin is a prerequisite to participate on a forum, especially if you are mentally inferior. Like so many of us are...

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VisitorSanCarlos wrote: what a group of ninnys
VSC, this might warrant an apology, labeling and not specifying anyone, but referring to all of us a "ninny's"!!

further why are you addressing this to the Xman when he is quoting me???

for the record baca's account was cancelled here because of his actions and failure to answer on two occasions the monitors questions!

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V are you addressing me with an X ? don't be lazy is not so complicated to copy and paste my handle.

Haven't read any apology request and don't need it,likewise, don't' think I have the need to square terms.... Perhaps what affects many readers here is the smell of an hypocrite attitude of someone that rules a SC forum as a Goebbels disciple , which is so arrogant to edit and change forum members postings, bans and shut up free speech discussions according his own beliefs but not the posters and has created a fascist site, were  poster "executions" are common  and where if a humble Federal Mexican agency by a chance reads it's "rules" will probably shut off the entire site for life and even charges on discrimination ( even to your own people) and constitutional free speech rights can be presented .

Not to mention that this Dark person also judges,blesses and proclaims as saints and models of virtue, profiles as hypocrite or more than himself, like the forum "deceased" Mr. Baca and quite a few more...and even worse !! in an ultimate attempt to bring to life his virtual empire, has tried to manipulate ,direct and demand reports on noble social activities  of the community and has acquired the belief He also may rule on the real world making a SAN CAROLVS TRIVMVIRATVS  with the former comisario, MR BACA !! and himself...BUT IF it is not you, no apologies needed and sorry for the misunderstanding , however, you sound so close to that NAZI reincarnation it is difficult to distinguish the difference...SIEG HEIL !

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Godwins law shame on you

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I’ve had enough of this thread.

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VisitorSanCarlos wrote: Godwins law shame on you

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'...Godwin's law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.[8][9] Similar criticisms of the "law" (or "at least the distorted version which purports to prohibit all comparisons to German crimes") have been made by the American lawyer, journalist, and author Glenn Greenwald.[10]"


8.David Weigel, "Hands Off Hitler! It's time to repeal Godwin's Law" Reason magazine, July 14, 2005]
9.Mit Hitler and Double standards.Godwin's law applies to thee but not to me. No Pasaran, May 28,2012 ]
10.Greenwald, Glenn (July 1, 2010)  The odiousness of the distorted Godwin's Law Salon.com

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Well that clears it up. One is only impressive if, they are perceived, by others to be impressive.

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