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In the last week, I've heard from two sources I consider reputable, who claim that all the restaurants on Algodones Beach (Soggy Peso, Sunset, La Salsa, Bonifacio's, whatever Dunas became) have been told to close and will be razed. There was conflict in the timeline given. One source said they have to close by the end of January and one said by May of next year.

In the case of the May date, this information came to me from someone who has business dealings with one of the restaurants out there. So, it is third hand, to me. Pretty close to the source.


One different source (from that last one) also claimed that ALL the structures comprising the old Club Med/Paradiso will also be razed and that the owners will be building two towers;   presumably with condos for sale or simple hotel space. This info is from the owners of the new development, inland (north) of the Paradiso. The one with all the palm trees lining the entry road. Those owners relayed it to a prominent restaurant owner in town, who told us over dinner at the restaurant.


What have others heard? If any of this is true,  others must have heard something.

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It was really only a matter of time. The contracts signed/or agreements made between the new owners and the beach bars, from what I was told by reputable sources, were for three years from purchase.

Sooner or later it was bound to happen. I have heard that the beach will stay open for kite boarding access.

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I had heard the three year lease story, too.


But one of my sources claimed that there was some new law that was passed in the last year that would allow the owners to break those leases. This source claimed the new law was ironclad; couldn't be gotten around.


If true, that would be first ironclad law I have ever heard of in Mexico. Seems there's ALWAYS a way around every law in Mexico.

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It has been almost three years hasn't it? Anyway the deep pockets with the political contacts/new owners could break the leases anytime they want I would think.

No way could the beach bars stay out there forever. Look what happened to the beach bars down in Tenacatita. This transition will be far more orderly i reckon.

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Well, I heard the three year lease story less than a year ago, IIRC. The Coppel's have certainly not owned it for three years, have they?

I confess to losing track of time, as the years advance.

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Those five restaurants generated a decent amount of money for Guaymas I'm sure. Take in money from out of town tourists primarily and give it to local employed folks. Too bad.

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If they're closing the Nightclubs out there, I don't think its a bad thing. When they opened a few years back it really changed SC from a sleepy town to party destination for college kids. Lots of car wrecks and disorderly kids into the night. Boy does that make me sound old.

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I had heard that the soggy peso and sunset were going to be allowed to stay. I hope so, as we love to spend time there on the beach and have lunch. The shrimp quesadillas are awesome!

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Snuffy wrote: I had heard that the soggy peso and sunset were going to be allowed to stay. I hope so, as we love to spend time there on the beach and have lunch. The shrimp quesadillas are awesome!
Those are the two I would miss the most. Great ambience at both, yet very different.
Still hoping the "cactus telegraph" will turn up something more concrete about all this. 

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If they arent careful they are going to turn San Carlos into Rocky Point!  Tear down Soggy peso and sunset (two bars that are a good destination) to build condos that they will never fill!  Great Idea!  Not so much!  There are condos all over rocky point (from what I am told) that they cant sell because the demand isnt there!  San Carlos maybe different but it makes me sad because I love hanging at soggy peso.  Now where is there a place to hang out on the beach? 

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The nightclubs have changed it for sure, but the Peso is an icon. Peso Lives Matter!

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azbandit66 wrote: When they opened a few years back it really changed SC from a sleepy town to party destination for college kids. Lots of car wrecks and disorderly kids into the night. Boy does that make me sound old.
This is a ridiculous comment.  SC has always been a party town for Hermosillo and Guaymas. 

First day I ever came to SC we went to 1910 and there were thousands there.

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JZ is right. There have been nightclubs attracting young people to SC for a long time. Tequilla´s was/is one. We lived right next to The General which had been Rama Rama before that. Los Jitos has/had a nightclub that gets a lot of young people. They might not have been on the west side but they were and will be here.

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When I first moved my boat to SC back in 2009, I was on the Tequila's side of the marina and the morning after weekends were always a disaster. Beer cans, bottles, trash, shit, toilet paper, puke, and worse, all over the place, often on vehicle bumpers. It didn't break my heart to move the far end of the other side, behind gates. Got really quiet over there.

None of that carried that far west that I ever saw. Peso shut down at dark and Cotton Club wasn't a party destination.

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I agree. Also, Bonifacio's , in my opinion, is the nicest dining facility in SC. When we have guests in town, we always have at least one meal there. I hate to see any of those places go.

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Got some more information from one of the restaurant owners out there. Again, third hand. Each restaurant has a different date of closure. Supposedly, La Salsa is Jan.1. Bonifacio's is May 1.

No word about Soggy Peso and Sunset Grill. Maybe they will be allowed to stay. :D

Also, no word about The Restaurant Formerly Known as Dunas.

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If the rumors and third hand information is remotely true this will be a tragedy for San Carlos residents and me personally.  Visiting Soggy Peso was the decision point in me buying my property here 10 years ago.  It is so rare and special to have a laid back place like Soggy (and now Sunset) as a destination any day of the week and is a wonderful way to introduce family and friends to San Carlos.
The love and work Lisa, Frank and their teams put into running those two great places is to be commended.  Even though some people don't want to pay 20 pesos go through the gate out there this will be a HUGE, HUGE loss to me and many local residents.
What can we do as loyal Soggy/Sunset customers?  I could care less about the other restaurants out there and hope the Coppell's can see how much charm and atmosphere Soggy/Sunset add to Algodones Beach and our lives. 

Any ideas anyone?

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Well, we really dont know for certain that the Peso and Sunset have been given notice. There are a number of us who somehow got the idea that they were guaranteed they would remain, supposedly by some representatives of the Coppels.

Who knows?

Lisa and Frank do, I suspect.

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I have had the opportunity to talk to one of the Coppels every few months (He's a kiteboarder.) I don't feel comfortable repeating what he tells me because I'm not sure that he wants his plans shared with the public. But, I feel certain that he will protect and improve the "beach experience."

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OK Don, I can appreciate you not betraying a confidence.  I'll just keep sending postiivethoughts to the Coppell family and trust they are smart people.  They have certainly been successful, in fact I have a time share in their Mazatlan Emerald Beach Resort and it is atop notch place so I assume they have high standards.

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They will move some of the restaurants to a new location.

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What's your source of that information Dave?

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Any updates on this?

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The last I heard, both La Salsa and Bonifacio's have until October.  Soggy Peso and Sunset Grill have until next spring??? They have a longer extension, just don't remember what the deadline is...since they change every month.😜

Good to see La Salsa is getting a jump on the closure by building their new place on San Francisco beach now.  Hope it works out for them (and us).  Love La Salsa Beach Bar and Restaurant.  😋

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This is really good news... La Salsa Bar at Playa San Francisco...This should reduce if not stop those accidents along that curvy,twisted road to the Soggy

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Hi - I'm new to this forum. Started going to the old Club Med back in 1992. Haven't been to San Carlos since the week before Club Med closed down forever in September, 2001. From what I've heard throughout the years Paradiso never made it. They never refurbished what could have been a great resort. Now, from what I'm reading in this thread it's all being torn down?

Anyway, I'm wanting to drive from Rocky Point to San Carlos. If I want to stay on Playa Algodones is Playa Blanca condos the only option?

Also, has anyone made the trip from Rocky Point to San Carlos and how is the highway.

What is it like down there during Semana Santa? Crazy like Rocky Point?
Thanks in advance for all your knowledge!

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The buildings at the old Club Med are still there but the new owners are not allowing access at this point.

Yes Semana Santa is crazy and rooms are scarce.

On the Algodones side there is also the San Carlos Plaza and the Sea of Cortez Beach Club.

See the hotel list on this website

http://www.reservetravel.com/v6/redir.aspx?type=hotellist&city=San%20Carlos,%20mexico&siteid=7436


By the way, no activity on the new La Salsa site for some time now. Not sure what is going on there.

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post #24 the owner of the palapa being built at playa san francisco is fernando robles, he is building a family restaurant there.
martin is the owner of la salsa!

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So, Frankie, are you saying that the new palapa being built at SF beach is NOT La Salsa?


Your posts are often hard for me to decipher.

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He is correct P.J., The new Palapa is Not the new La Salsa. Some other Sea Food place ! It does look like construction has stopped.

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Any updates on Soggy Peso?

We spent many pleasant and relaxing afternoons there and are very much looking forward to returning next Winter.

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Soggy Peso is still there, and is going to be for awhile, along with it's Sister company Sunsets Bar and Grill. The rest have to be out by October, unless THAT changes, which it tends to do around here.

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marlin master wrote: Soggy Peso is still there, and is going to be for awhile, along with it's Sister company Sunsets Bar and Grill. The rest have to be out by October, unless THAT changes, which it tends to do around here.
Do they plan to change locations? Or if they end up having to leave, will that be it?



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