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In this latest episode of water shortages (about two weeks) we have been getting a very small amount each night.
This AM, it's still coming in at full force, right now!
Check your cisterns/tinacos. Make sure your float valve isn't stuck in the "up" position.

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Nada mucho at the 'ol "H" Brigade.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

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Actually, Bill, it stopped coming in about 20 minutes after I posted this.


But that's not that unusual for it to shut off in the early AM, even when things are "normal" (whatever that is).


I saw Yeyita (sp) at a party last night, but didn't have the heart to question her about the situation. Big birthday party last night at Shots for several people, including Judy (one of the owners). She really put out some incredible FREE pupus for everyone. Her homemade jalapeno poppers are the best I have ever had.

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It wouldn't make any difference if you ask her or not you will not get a straight answer and everyone in the Ranchitos knows that or at least I think they do. She is a very nice person but she only does what she is told to do.

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we where out of water service here at puseta del sol since 9:00 am tuesday. the service returned today at approximately 6:00 am.

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NADA on "H" for days now.....

Boy do we need some RAIN.

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frankiej wrote: we where out of water service here at puseta del sol since 9:00 am tuesday. the service returned today at approximately 6:00 am.
Yesterday I heard by accident on one of the local Guaymas radio (I usually don't listen to it) an announcement on behalf of CEA San Carlos that that part of San Carlos (from Sector Bahia and beyond to Puesta del Sol) were not going to have water service from sometime in the morning until the evening. Some repairs were happening in the facility across from Posada Beach.

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wonderful

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We have gotten water for the last three days at a rather unusual time; in the late afternoon.

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I am full. Ave N, Ranchitos.

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Nothing for about 24 hours. Company C, Ranchitos.

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we are in a heat wave and it is expected to be hotter this weekend! the radio is announcing to have stores of water if necessary! sounds like a good idea!

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A welcome change. We are full up tonight on C. Water was coming in for at least 4 hours.

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It did not make it to "H"................UGGGGG

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Seems like this will keep happening until they drill a new, deep, high capacity well. Talking to the people at the local CEA office seems a waste of time. I think that only someone with tremendous political clout can convince the state (CEA is NOT a Guaymas funded organization) to spend the money on a new well.

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i may be wrong, but it is my belief that the wells are on private property.the wells, pumps, casing, electrical, may be the property of CEA.i think they operate on a lease!

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If the well is in such dire straights, wouldnt the CONAGUA survey each year reveal this? I guess maybe it does.


I dont think even the state has the money or expertise to find a location for a new well. It would have to be situated well away from the current aquifer they are drawing from or what's the point of drilling a new well? That requires technical studies on where to locate it and new pipes. Seems very unlikely, unless the Feds get involved.


Whatever happened to Mel's desal plant he's been talking about for years?

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frankiej wrote: i may be wrong, but it is my belief that the wells are on private property.the wells, pumps, casing, electrical, may be the property of CEA.i think they operate on a lease!
Yeah, isn't it on Indian land or something? I keep hearing that the Indians break into the building, steal the A/C units, the pump overheats and then, here we are. No water.

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Well casings spaced more than 100 yds apart in shallow aquifiers let water seep to the sea.

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over use of the aquifer also allows salt water to fill in from the sea! case in point the ortiz valley! the existing wells close to the highway are no longer pumping potable water.

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Is there ANY part of Mexico that isn't about short term gains over the long term welfare of a system? I can't think of one.

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Has any one ever wondered why some areas of SC get water most of the time and other areas don't?  Shall we say that the more affluent areas (and I don't like that word affluent) such as Vista Marina, Puesta del Sol, Caracol Tourista and Pennisula, etc.  very seldom go with out water and if they do it's for a very short length of time.  The Ranchiitos has many Mexican families living in the area and maybe they CEA doesn't think they will do anything about it.  It is my understanding that the Mexican government must, by law, furnish water to it's people but they don't have to say how much and when.  I don't think Ranchitos has a storage tank as other areas have and evidently CEA doesn't want to build one for Ranchitos. All I can say is they better wake up because water is worth more than gold these days and they can not operate as they now do forever.

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The Ranchitos is such a hodge-podge of pipes that even CEA doesnt fully understand how they operate.

But I can tell you that we havent been below half of a 5000 liter cistern in the last three weeks. We dont shower less, we arent watering much less. We do wait till water is near full (or even better, actually filling) to do laundry.

We have been getting reduced flows but we get water ALMOST every day. Not so with others just a couple blocks away.

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I live in the Ranchitos and have not been out of water for years. It all depends on the goofy distribution system but not all of the Ranchitos has problems.

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Hook wrote: Is there ANY part of Mexico that isn't about short term gains over the long term welfare of a system? I can't think of one.
My observation is; short term thinking.... Whats for lunch!     Long term thinking..... Whats for Supper!
The future doesn't seem to exist here.

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Hook wrote: Is there ANY part of Mexico that isn't about short term gains over the long term welfare of a system? I can't think of one.
The overland pipe line that brought water from Novio, most recently.

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i was working on a cistern in the royal country club yesterday. there was no water coming into the subdivision. i made some inquiries and was told it comes in sporadically!we have water coming in at puesta!

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post #23 describes it best! CEA for the most part was and is only responsible for the main line! from that main line developers have spliced off for their projects! from those splices others have spliced off, so on and so on! i would venture to say the first splices where probably inadequate for the the demand they where to deliver for! there was never a master plan for san carlos much less the water system!  i was here during jimena, touring greater san carlos to view the damage i witnessed the exposed plumbing for most of the areas of san carlos! i was amassed to see all of the 1" PVC piping trans-versing miles and miles for it distribution! so i believe there lies the problem!!we have problems now, wait till the new subvdivision projects are on line at the entrance of the royal, behind san carlos country club and the project for over 100 homes out by paradiso!

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we are quick to blame CEA for this overwhelming infrastructural problem! when the blame probably should also be focused on "urbano" they issue the permits!
CEA provided the main lines and there should be mapping for those lines! from there if "urbano" are to issue permits for developments, it should be "urbano's" obligation to provide minimum and maximum requirements! any tapping into those permitted developments should take into account the minimum and maximum capacity usage.
was this ever done? we all know the answer!!



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