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MartinZ
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I'm thinking about exploring the San Carlos/Guaymas area with my 16' Neptune.  I can't seem to find much current information on public boat ramps and what they cost.  I'd prefer to put in at San Carlos but am open to any options in the area.

Can anyone give me current information and pricing?

Thanks!

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I don't think there are any "public" ramps as in free .

Both marinas have ramps.

Might be worth asking them as with your size not sure if you would also require the insurance / tip etc.

Good luck.

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Thanks.  Yeah, I'm so small that I'm happy to put in at the panga ramps.

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The easiest that comes to mind is off the beach adjacent to Playa Blanca , I see a couple of Pangas there and you can drive in there pretty close , might be worth checking out.

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Sorry I'm a Kineno.  Where's Playa Blanca?

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Playa Blanca - is out towards the Soggy Peso - Algadonnes Beach - its the huge white condo building.

Also as I was driving this am I noticed Posada beach ( turn off before the Posada Condos turning ) which also has decent access to the beach - this time on the opposite side from Algadonnes beach. Usually if winds from the NW this side is calmer , equally in summer we sometimes get SW winds and the Algadonnes side is calmer.

Hope of some help !

Good luck

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Wouldn't a boat on a trailer sink in the sand on both beaches? Algodones and La Posada beach. We are also looking for places to launch and it seemed to us that we would have to have a small boat on sand tires to move from the dirt road over the sand to the water. We haven't done it yet. Has anyone been successful in launching a boat on the dirt area in front of the fishing village on Bahia, I mean out between the Marina and the fishing village?

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Launching across a beach may wind up costing you more in fees to get hauled out then paying the fee to use a marina ramp.  You will find links to both marinas at http://www.sancarlosmexico.com/marineservice.html

The other issue after launching over the beach is security for your vehicle while on the water.  Fees are reasonable IMHO.  Ramp fee is about $4-$4.50 each way.  How much is the wrecker going to cost???

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Oops !

I was thinking it was light - as in carry or drag able :-(

If you have to use the trailer then the marinas are only way to go

Thanks for spotting that Bart !

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I'm happy to use the marina ramp.  I was just concerned that they would require insurance which I don't have.  Can I leave my vehicle at the marina parking area for multiple nights?  I'll check the website and maybe give them a call, but if anyone has any particular insights I'd be interested.

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You need to contact them regarding insurance but think it is required to use their facilities.  Lots of very expensive fiberglass in both marinas.  All you need is liability to keep them happy and you can order online at http://www.sancarlosmexico.com/insure.html  Coverage for a 16' sailboat is $13.50 per day and $135/year for basic liability.

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Martin---

at the esterito at the head of the bay (turn right into the fishing camp just before the little bridge), there's a dirt/concrete slope that will work as a ramp for a smallish trailerable boat at high tide.  this won't work for anything with much draft but a swing keel 16'er should be doable.  i've launched there many times and have seen people launching trailer boats up to maybe 18' plus lots of pangas.  no soft sand involved but the passage out to the main harbor is shallow and narrow, and completely non-doable at less than 1/2 tide for anything bigger than a portabote or inflatable.

it's right next to one family's place but they're very nice folks and happy to let you launch there if you ask.  they sell fish and bait too (excellent quality fish, good prices) so you might buy some as a thank you.  the middle aged dad is named Victor and his wife is Mercedes.

Last edited on Mon Mar 5th, 2012 09:25 pm by barato

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Thanks Barato! 

I wondered about that little rampa.  That sounds like what I'm looking for.  I can tip my mast for getting under the bridge.  Plus, I like hanging with pangeros.

Muchas gracias!

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Martin---

at the esterito at the head of the bay (turn right into the fishing camp just before the little bridge), there's a dirt/concrete slope that will work as a ramp for a smallish trailerable boat at high tide.  this won't work for anything with much draft but a swing keel 16'er should be doable.  i've launched there many times and have seen people launching trailer boats up to maybe 18' plus lots of pangas.  no soft sand involved but the passage out to the main harbor is shallow and narrow, and completely non-doable at less than 1/2 tide for anything bigger than a portabote or inflatable.

it's right next to one family's place but they're very nice folks and happy to let you launch there if you ask.  they sell fish and bait too (excellent quality fish, good prices) so you might buy some as a thank you.  the middle aged dad is named Victor and his wife is Mercedes.

Barato, when you launch at the fishing village where do you park?

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I have used the ramps at both marinas, and purchased ins, but have never been asked for it?? I'm not sure that ins is a reguirement.

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I think insurance is only required if you get a slip. Best to check with them of course.

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You buy the insurance for one day or week and you are good to go forever...Be very careful with your navigation..

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Following Fairwind's advice is an invitation to a whole lot of headaches, for you and everyone around you.  You never need insurance until you really need it.  Seems to me that if you can't/won't maintain at least liability insurance to protect other boaters property and the environment, you have no business owning a boat. 

Anybody remember the saga of JustJim?  See the thread at http://forum.sancarlosmexico.com/forum2/2477.html on why you need insurance.

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We used the channel on the east side of the bahia.. With motor tilted up we were still digging in the mud.. Then on the way out I had afternoon wind that caused me mucho concern for hitting the rocks and more mud-bogging..
I am sympathetic to all the newbies to San Carlos, not long ago I was one and wanted to skin the cat on $$$..
We moor at Marina SC and they ask for insurance when signing in.. Not sure about launching only and not needing insurance..
About using the Marina SC lot for overnight parking?? I doubt it.. I had a nice note on my boat trailer about using there lot for overnight parking.. And that is with me a paying customer..
Heed the suggest of 'caution' when learning the ropes of San Carlos..

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bartmanaz wrote: Following Fairwind's advice is an invitation to a whole lot of headaches, for you and everyone around you.  You never need insurance until you really need it.  Seems to me that if you can't/won't maintain at least liability insurance to protect other boaters property and the environment, you have no business owning a boat. 

Anybody remember the saga of JustJim?  See the thread at http://forum.sancarlosmexico.com/forum2/2477.html on why you need insurance.

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SOOOOOO TRUE!! All should read this saga.

This Mans experience should prove to Newbes that hiring a local captain, till you learn the ropes, is a smart thing to do.

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Whatever happened to Just Jim? Trailer?

I'd just love to hear "the rest of the story".

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my recollection is that the short version was something along the lines of he was coming in late at night, possibly had a few, made the turn too sharp coming into the bahia, impaled his boat on what has become known as the "boat on the rocks rock" that now has the sporadically-working light on it, went back to the US and tried to arrange salvage from there, while the boat was systematically stripped of parts.  there was some debate on the precise facts, but he was not happy and lost his entire investment in the boat.

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No No No-----we get all that, I mean the whole rest of the story---you know. Where and what happened to the borrowed trailer---the old wood boat was worth---well-----not much, but it made good kindle for the brickmakers. Does ol Jimbo come back down? You know the rest of the story.

Not trying to mess up anyones carma but this story is worth retelling. Damn let's write a book.

It's going to be a long summer.

PS---I love the "boat on the rocks---rock" I'll not forget that one anytime soon.

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This was one of the first stories I read before ( 2 years later ) finally getting to San Carlos - love to know the "rest of the story" !!

I always remember that rock coming in from the north - it can be easy to miss with a little inattention !

Jim, are you out there ......

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The last I heard was a year or so after the event and the buddy was looking for Jim to get compensated for the loss of his trailer. Not sure of any further developments after that.



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