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 Posted: Thu Mar 25th, 2010 05:55 am
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Nice to hear from you Barb, sorry that we are celebrating what was once a tragic event for you.

I'm sure that you have information, lay out details, blue prints maybe, that might be very useful to the El Mar dive team, in making the wreck a safe dive site.

Perhaps you could contact Feliza at El Mar in San Carlos, or Tonia, the owner of their store in Mesa, AZ?

http://elmar.com/

I'm sure they can arrange for you to join them on a future voyage up to the site.

Regards

Seamus

 

 

 

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Barb we are soo glad hear from you, we are really happy to found the Poseidon, Pato is very excited, you know that his experience at that day mark his life forever, we are putting the full information together and I will love to send you pictures and more information about it. Will take us at least two more days, can you please send me a personal e-mail you can find our information in the el mar web site and will respond you back with a package to you in a couple days, regards!

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I believe I have all the schematics of the boat when it was assayed before we went though the Panama Canal delivering the boat to San Carlos. I'll be happy to look for anything I have and get with Tonia. After sitting on this info for a couple of days now, I am both happy and sad, but it will bring much needed closure for me.

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Please check this web site, there is a information about it and pictures.

http://www.whatsupsancarlos.com/2010/02/16/poseidon/

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Feiza, I had not seen the pictures of the passengers before they had to abandon ship, or the photos of Poseidon going under. Wow! What can I say except that it's very emotional looking at those photos. Who took them?

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I didn't send to you because I tought you already have it, sorry about it, one of the passengers took thoses pictures, I will send you a CD with all the pictures and information that we have.

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So, how come with all the buoys, life rafts, life vests, diver/boat below etc etc floating stuff nobody managed to tie a piece of string to something to mark the spot ? It would have made it a lot easy-er to find back. Slightly used air compressor for sale?

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The crew tied a bouy but didn't work, maybe because the strong wind who knows, and they went back a week later to try locate it but didn't work

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I think that the Location would be a secret for a while.

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How wonderful that such a lovely lady has been found. It may be sad for now, Barb, but hopefully that sadness will be eased by knowing the Princess will be soon be loved and enjoyed by many.

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Hello, I just want update in our progress on the Poseidon, we are holding the coordenates until we make it safer, El Mar doesn't take any responsability if other people found the Poseidon and is diving without safety procedures. We will share the location after we clean the boat, for that we need founds and we are figuring out what we can do to take thoses nets off the boat and than we can share with all our friends in San Carlos and promote it. I will meet some people in Hermosillo next week and we keep posted in the progress. We are anxious to have Poseidon ready.

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Out of curiosity, anyone know the current ownership situation of the boat? I don't know about something like this in territorial waters but it seems that often an insurance company assumes salvage ownership if a claim has been paid. Depending on ownership and any plans to float it, leave it lying, or move it to a different location less hazardous to fishermen, there could be a great opportunity for community involvement.

Perhaps a group of interested parties - ecologists, divers, and others committed to preserving the site - would contribute both funding and personal efforts to clear nets, safe the craft, and install anchorages far enough away from the wreck for safety's sake. It's been done quite successfully before and sounds like an exciting and satisfying prospect!

Last edited on Wed Apr 14th, 2010 06:27 am by Biscuit

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Hope we can get the founds thru the government if not we will go for the plan B, which is going to be something that you already mentioned, by the way, you have great ideas, thank you! Who really owns the boat now is the mexican government because was found in mexican waters. Because is already an aritificial wreck, the mexican laws protect the boat and nobody can move and do anything against the marine life in there, we wish this can be regulate like in the US but is totally different.

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Feliza

I and others would be curious to know what the government will and will not allow vis a vis the wreck site.  Can the nets be removed and other steps taken to make the site safer for divers?  Can the site be marked to preclude more nets getting entangled?  Can anchorages be established to preclude dropping anchors and stuff on the wreck? 

I know the ferry wreck, which was created as a wreck dive site is not marked and have been told that markers have been removed for various reasons, depending on who is telling the story.

Let us know what can be done to help.

Thanx

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Hell Bart, I worked for Cortez Explorer 15 years ago, and I do remember the ferry was marked many times from Club Med people but the fishing pangas were stealing every time, so didn't work. Unfortunally the fishermans are not in this side of the tourist  business and conservation and they think different than us. Our idea for now is to remove the nets and make the dive safer at the Poseidon, when our crew went to dive to the boat, the visibility and conditions were ugly, we will do an other trip soon and take more pictures and video of the boat than we will present to CEDES (Ecology and Conservation of Sonora) and we will go from that. Our first idea was to open a bank account to collect founds, invite to the other dive shops to run trip to poseidon┬┤s and use part of this money toward poseidon proyect but the chief of CEDES is really friend of my family and he offer his help, of course like everything in the government, takes time and a lot paper work, next week I will be able to see if this will really happens, if not, than we will go for the plan that I already mentioned and of course we will need everybody┬┤s help.

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That sounds good, Feliza! You've been familiar with the AZ/CA/MX dive communities for a long time (viva la Cortez Explorer!) so you know folks will help in any way possible... even if you do have funding from CEDES, which would be a miracle in itself. :cool:
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