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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 04:17 am |
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lasninas Member
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Hello, I am considering bringing a 17' bayliner down from British Columbia and keeping it here in San Carlos. I would like to get some feedback on the cons of putting this boat into salt water. I know what the pros are and I'm ready to start experiencing those! Thanks very much.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 05:19 am |
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Hook Member
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Is it raw water cooled?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 05:28 am |
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lasninas Member
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Hmmm...okay...you have me stumped already! Ha! I do not even know what your question means. Okay...I have a boat and I am not a boat person...nor a mechanic...so please forgive me that I do not know the answer to your question. If you give me a list I can send them to my brother and ask him! Ha! Thanks Hook!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 11:03 am |
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ezmony Member
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Is it stern drive or outboard? If you know not the answer to these questions I must repectfully submit that you may want to take a look at taking some boating classes and chartering. You'll be much happier in the long run............ Oh and BTW this is the sailing forum, you might consider the other forums for this question. Not many "stink potters" on this board. Last edited on Wed Jul 20th, 2011 11:06 am by ezmony |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 12:09 pm |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 05:53 pm |
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RichD Member
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Your boat is probably raw water cooled. Not many boats of that size have a closed cooling system. This means that you will be circulating salt water through your engine. Many boats operate that way here and it is important to flush the engine with fresh water after using it in the ocean. Salt water is very corrosive to state the obvious and it will do some harm to your boat. The damage from occasional use is probably not that much if you get the salt out of the engine and off of any surface that will corrode. Last edited on Wed Jul 20th, 2011 05:54 pm by RichD |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 06:04 pm |
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barato Member 
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Lasninas-- raw water cooling refers to engine being cooled with external sea water run through it, rather than having a closed system using a heat exchanger with coolant mixture in it (sorta like a car cooling system). the closed cooling system avoids some headaches with corrosion inside the engine due to salt water being run through it, since the exterior of the heat exchanger (akin to car radiator) and the exhaust system (water cooled on most boats) are the main parts exposed to salt water. if your boat does use raw water cooling(the vast majority do, and you'd remember it if you'd dropped the $600-1000+ on a closed cooling system on your 17' boat), you can help significantly with the problem by flushing it thoroughly with fresh water after each use. this is only an issue with an inboard or inboard/outboard motor.....AFAIK, all outboard motors still use raw water cooling. flushing is very important for these too. the other big issue will be to make sure the "sacrificial anodes" (AKA "zincs" since this is what they're usually made of) on your lower unit are in good shape....these are designed to corrode away, to prevent galvanic corrosion from eating your aluminum etc parts. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion i assume with a 17' boat, you'll be storing it on a trailer between uses? since you have an aluminum hull, i would also consider sticking a zinc on the transom if you do plan to leave it in water at a marina (altho i know many here think this is unnecessary overkill). i bought a bunch of sailboat parts on ebay from a guy whose steel hulled boat had literally been eaten by galvanic corrosion at a marina, altho this was exacerbated by electrical problems at the marina causing electrical "leakage" into the water. of course, since marinas in Mexico, like everything else, are always in tip top state of repair....... zinc anodes are cheaper than TIG welding. my 2 peso's worth. hope this gets you started in the right direction. EDIT: sorry, Rich, didn't realize you'd just posted that Last edited on Wed Jul 20th, 2011 06:05 pm by barato |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 06:43 pm |
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Hook Member
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I have never owned a raw water cooled boat, other than one with outboards. But I remember my friends having to replace risers/heat exchangers about every 5-6 years or so with inboard or I/O type engines that were raw water cooled. They'd have them boiled out every 2-3 years, too. And eventually, the block gets corroded enough that it becomes unuseable, though I dont know how long that can take. Basically, its a byproduct of trying to run an automotive engine in a salt water situation and a closed cooling system extends the life of the engine by plenty. If you've got an outboard, you'll be fine as they are designed for salt water applications, in most cases.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 08:20 pm |
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lasninas Member
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Thanks so much for the information...I will ask my brother to read these posts and turn this thing over to him! I can start the boat and drive the boat however, I no ZERO about mechanical stuff or boat maintenance. It's just not my strong suit! Your detailed responses are much appreciated!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 08:57 pm |
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barato Member
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unless you're planning on taking your bro out with you every time, might not be a bad idea to ejjicate yourself more about this inherently-fallible mechanical device you're trusting you to deliver you home from the high seas and run from chubascos. many community colleges offer intro-to--mechanics courses. not a bad idea to learn at least how to deal with the stuff that could strand you. speaking of which, another issue that's not so much fresh vs salt water but more Sea of Cortez vs lakes is safety gear.....VHF radio, flares, etc. Many discussions here on that, so i won't belabor it further, but something to think about before you take it out.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21st, 2011 10:05 pm |
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lasninas Member
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Roger that! We are starting to think that the little Bayliner might be better left up in B.C. and then my brother might just buy a panga down here. Seems much simplier and in the long run might just cost less! Plus, he can take care of it! Yes!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 01:06 am |
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Hook Member
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That's a good plan. A 17 foot lake boat would be pretty frustrating down here, IMO.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23rd, 2011 05:12 am |
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Panga68 Member 
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I have been boating in San Carlos for over 14 years and will say that the panga idea is a good one. The pangas are very sea worthy. Just my two pesos is that in the ocean you must always plan for the worst like a spare kicker motor and extra plugs prop. your have to learn to be self reliant in this environment. Never leave without a working radio and lots of water. Remember you cant drink salt water and we cant live without it. I have seen lots of lake boat out on good days and seen them turn into a torpedo on bad days. good luck
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| Posted: Sun Aug 28th, 2011 04:13 am |
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glitter Member
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Based on the questions asked, I recommend staying in the freshwater pond you are in. the SEA will whoop you!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30th, 2011 06:29 am |
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gpyros Member 
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glitter wrote: Based on the questions asked, I recommend staying in the freshwater pond you are in. the SEA will whoop you! Glitter: Hey man, lighten up! We were all beginners once - some of us not that long ago! If she wants to learn how to boat safely in the ocean, why shouldn't she? 5 years ago when I moved here I wouldn't have known the answers to those questions, either. Hire a captain to teach you the ropes, get familiar with your boat, and learn everything you can. Don't be afraid of the ocean, but have a lot of respect for it. If she wants to do that, I welcome her to the sea and this board. If she decides that she doesn't want to follow the learning curve herself and always go out with her brother instead, then she could safely go that route if she desires. But to tell her to go jump in a lake, so to speak - and stay there - is a little harsh, don't you think? Lasninas, there are plenty of people here who would be very happy to help you get to a safe level that you are comfortable with. Let us know how we can help, Greg Pyros Last edited on Tue Aug 30th, 2011 06:33 am by gpyros |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30th, 2011 05:01 pm |
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barato Member
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Agree 100% w/ Sr Greg! some of those Qs i wouldn't have known the answers to 2 years ago. i started my "boating" in SC area with an inflatable that was not much more than glorified pool toy and always made it home through exercising a lot of caution. stay within the limits of your seamanship and your boat and you'll be fine. there is a lot of decent fishing and diving to be had within even 1/4 mile of shore (albeit lots of prop and hull eating rocks too). don't be afraid to ask Qs and there will be plenty of helpful folks here who will answer em
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30th, 2011 09:04 pm |
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B.Bailey Member 
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British Columbia seems like a long way to trailer a boat . I see no reason not to though. Your Bayliner may like the new scenery. As long as she has a deep enough freeboard for the wave action around here . A regular low profile bass type boat will be at a disadvantage. A Panga sounds like a great idea . As far as experience goes - you can never have too little or enough - you have to start somewhere. I think it starts with being here.
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