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 Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2020 03:50 pm
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The usual story. No enforcement by Mexican fishing authorities.


Git out yer translator.


https://opinionsonora.com/2020/06/28/amenazan-pescadores-con-quemar-barcos-sonorenses/

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 02:22 am
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A Sonoran sardine boat, netted a up a bunch of sardines accross the Sea of Cortez west of us, off Mulege and Punta Chivato.

They filled their storage lockers, but a lot of dead fish wouldn't fit, and it was left to drift up onto these Baja California beaches causing a stink.

The locals are now threatening to burn boats from the Guaymas fleet making their own stink in the newspapers.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 05:20 pm
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The sardine fishermen are primarily what's destroying sportfishing.


Next it's commercial tablefare fishing.


They do bounce back provided the species don't fall below threshold levels.  Just need to eliminate the biatfish destruction industry.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2020 01:58 pm
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It's easy to see those guys out there going and coming from the North daily. I have asked several times before on 2 forums with no answer. How can they go out and pangueros and married couples and singles cant go near the water? I assume pesos is the answer?

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Classified as essential work activities, as compared to tourism Ron.

Grapes are being harvested now. Big growers will bring in crews as large as 8-10 thousands to work, at almost 40 farms to work, eat, use porta potti and sleep out side by side.

Right now, all the farms have very high infection rates that don't get reported as the workers have no way to stop working while sick, or go to the Dr. Same thing is going on on California, AZ and Tx Farms.

And one could ask are grapes essential?

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2020 02:14 am
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ANY working man or woman's job is essential, if it is necessary to pay the bills and feed the family. Pangueros are not recreational fishermen.

The difference in Mexico, as usual, is that the big fish swim in a different set of rules.

It's not that different in the US, but we did see some big fish ops shut down like airlines, auto assembly, agriculture, etc.

Some of them are not going to recover. There are airlines that have crushing debt loads, irrespective of any government bailouts. Will Ford survive as the last remaining, independent US automaker of the Big Four? Will the dwindling number of family farms be able to make it through this? The mom and pop retailers?

There is going to be big business changes, once we get through this virus (assuming we develop some type of vaccine). This situation favors the biggest of the big businesses.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2020 02:46 am
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I agree Hook, and the crystal ball topic of what's gonna happen in the next two would be a great topic if Bart would permit it.

The vaccine hope is not very reassuring when the monkeies that survived Covid only had continued resistance to it for 28 days. So to me, it looks like the herd is gonna be thinned, and those that can survive will carry on the best they can.

Its bucket list time unfortunately for a lot of folks, and businesses.

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