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 Posted: Thu Oct 19th, 2017 02:24 am
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First one I've ever seen here. 25 out on a 150. Maybe over 100#. Almost snagged it with a popper. Got a big Green squid out but didn't see it again. Passed it several times before that though.

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I have been telling everybody...several caught out of loreto...they are here, we just need to try it!

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Study up PQ, we'll try it!

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Spoke to the guys on Bad Company while in Escandito a couple years ago and they had been doin pretty good catching broadbill at night over there out at the Islands.

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I'm not sure if you catch  swordfish trolling, mabey you do but I know that people in Florida use dorado bellys and squid and deepdrop @3000ft

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Repsilon, PQ, I found this article in one of my Sport Fishing magazine and thought it might help.. The pictures are also in the Gallery where you may be able to zoom


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Thanks 50 out.  Here is a link to another how to article:  https://www.sportfishingmag.com/species/fish-species/lone-star-swordfish#page-2

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I have done a lot of research on how to do it, and I have been wanting to start trying, I just d don't want to reel in 2000' by hand. Need a good electric reel to start...I have everything else

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What reel do you think we need?

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In Florida, Krystal reels on a bent butt rod are generally the rig of choice plus some heavy 5-15 lb trolling sinkers from Pete's Sinkers, + a small motor to slow troll 700-1500 feet deep, and at least a 1kw transducer to see stuff around structure.
https://www.tackledirect.com/kristal-fishing-xl-621-dredge-deep-drop-electric-reel.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvLf1642C1wIVgYp-Ch0doQmcEAQYASABEgLkEfD_BwE
I would think you would also want to be set up with lights to do this is at night.   These fish could also be caught with a 80w or 130 wide loaded with 80-100#, but I would want some strong younger guys to wind by hand before I invested in an electric setup.

I wonder if the swords would be working in different areas or depths than the sharks that I imagine would out number them and would think that they probably could be found around the squid boats or concentrations of whales.

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$1,500 for a reel - Yikes!

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What squid boats or whales? They went to the Pacific with all the whales. I haven't seen a Sperms Whale in a few years now. Need a good fish finder to get the thermoclines. I want to catch an Oarfish.

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35 -40 yrs ago, before the advent of electric reels, commercial fishermen in HI, fishing at night and deep, for tuna and broadbill, would use 80# and 130# rated rods equipped with large capacity Penn senators and internationals.  Since they were fishing for market and not line class records, IGFA  rules did not apply.  The angler in the chair essentially became the "cranker", responsible only for getting line back on the spool in an even manner, while a strong young guy would get his shoulder under and in back of the rod tip, don a pair of wet cotton gloves  and haul in the line by hand.  I believe all commercials then  used monofilament because it sank and was relatively easier to grab,  rather than dacron which floated.  I don't think braided line currently available, would work  in this type of hand lining application because it would cut too much. 
Hauling in a big fish by hand while a "cranker" puts line back on the spool, is the ticket when you do not have an expensive electric reel, and when you have a large and feisty fish on may, in fact, be more effective.
If I can be of assistance to anyone with further explanation , please do not hesitate to contact me.   226 0832    Hanapaa (John Castanha)

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hanapaa wrote: 35 -40 yrs ago, before the advent of electric reels, commercial fishermen in HI, fishing at night and deep, for tuna and broadbill, would use 80# and 130# rated rods equipped with large capacity Penn senators and internationals.  Since they were fishing for market and not line class records, IGFA  rules did not apply.  The angler in the chair essentially became the "cranker", responsible only for getting line back on the spool in an even manner, while a strong young guy would get his shoulder under and in back of the rod tip, don a pair of wet cotton gloves  and haul in the line by hand.  I believe all commercials then  used monofilament because it sank and was relatively easier to grab,  rather than dacron which floated.  I don't think braided line currently available, would work  in this type of hand lining application because it would cut too much. 
Hauling in a big fish by hand while a "cranker" puts line back on the spool, is the ticket when you do not have an expensive electric reel, and when you have a large and feisty fish on may, in fact, be more effective.
If I can be of assistance to anyone with further explanation , please do not hesitate to contact me.   226 0832    Hanapaa (John Castanha)


The problem with slow trolling that deep is that line that has 3x the area will not go down as easily with the same weight and will not be as sensitive to a soft bite with more line bow. But as you said it can be done manually if you don't tire easily. Just try to bring all deep drop fish up fast enough so that the sharks don't eat your catch given more time to find it. 

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Very interesting technique, thanks Hanapaa.

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Broadbills are reported to be highly migratory. When are they present in our waters?

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There is a lot of videos on the internet on how to fish for them. deermeatfordinner on your tube has videos and I think hey are very useful

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You could not put that much pressure on this type fish... 14 lbs of drag is considered quite a bit. To say they have a "soft mouth" is an understatement.

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