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 Posted: Mon Jul 17th, 2017 12:25 am
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We fished thur. out of real on a 220 - 23 miles out caught three medium size dorado.
sat. was a great day for july weather cooler with cloud cover almost all day w/ a nice breeze.we ended up 28 out on a 240. we got a double on 16 lb dorado ! one on ballyhoo the other one hit a melton lure clearing the lines.fished our way in to 24 and caught 2 more also had a hook up on a sail but lost it. all dorado were about the same size.


over all a couple good days of fishing.There out you just have to look.
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 Posted: Mon Jul 17th, 2017 01:55 pm
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That's great to hear!

Has anyone spotted any long lines out there? With the drop in dorado numbers and size over the last few years, it seems like even the long lining pangas from La Manga have thrown in the towel.

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we didnt see any long liners.it seems to me when that bigger mother ship would drop pangas and move up and down the sea of cortez that put a dent in the dorado population for sure !    

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vernberbeles wrote: we didnt see any long liners.it seems to me when that bigger mother ship would drop pangas and move up and down the sea of cortez that put a dent in the dorado population for sure !    
That was a really big factor, no doubt. Probably the biggest factor.

But there were land-based pangas that were laying them, too. I saw ones from La Manga and from Esterito, too, servicing lines out there, over the years. Haven't seen any in a couple years and the few years before that, the lines I saw were pretty much empty, except for the occasional sad turtle hooked onto it. 

Pangas were laying these lines probably all the way to El Salvador. I know that Bullshipper and I have seen (separately) fishermen in port, readying long lines with multiple hooks in places from Mazatlan to Manzanillo. The only thing these could have been intended for is dorado, billfish or turtles;  all illegal to take like that. Maybe shark, but those are getting so rare, too.

Imagine running into one of those lines if you were doing a night crossing? What a bummer.

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Pangas are small potatoes.

These fish are being decimated by automated systems on larger hulls that can hold 100's of tons using equipment that baits, sets out, and picks back up 1000's of hooks per hour with and w/o fish. Here is a video of equipment that is typical of what they have been using for decades. Minute 3 starts the action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO9ZMNLuu9I

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Here's the same machine baiting 18,000 hooks per set, 250 hooks at a time, 4.5 hooks per second to finish a set in 90 minutes, per machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTUOHTra73M

Last edited on Tue Jul 18th, 2017 02:36 am by Bullshipper

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Gee, I wonder where all the dorado went?

Must be El Nino, eh..................

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New generation of hookless Dorado harvesting machines.  

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tecate wrote: New generation of hookless Dorado harvesting machines.  

That's great! LOL.

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No limits on corporate-sponsored, dorado fishing 'bots. Regs are just for fools like us sportfishermen.


How do you make Mexican businessmen (restaurateurs, hotel owners, marina owners, ANYONE in tourism) understand that if fishing goes south, a large percentage of tourists will stay away?


Suppose they gave a fishing tournament and no fish came? Look at the drop in entrants over the years.

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Is it just me or does that look a space age replica of the female anatomy

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That's horrible!

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Would that be a female "robot" anatomy

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