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 Posted: Thu Mar 2nd, 2017 11:33 pm
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Disgusting, read this report.             
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/world-s-most-endangered-marine-mammal-down-30-individuals

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I've seen large numbers of them several times this winter and last fall. and I know what they look like...don't think the experts are looking everywhere...it has seemed to be fewer larger sea mammals around, incl the bigger dolphins and whales  esp the sperms which were abundant a few years ago....

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You didn't see Vaquitas unless you were in the far northern Gulf. Had a huge pod of Common Dolphin come through today. No die off of mammals, they just moved with the bait. Saw some whales a few miles out this morning. Maybe they were more Humpbacks, which we saw last week. The Sperms follow the larger squid.

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Lack of squid this year because of colder water = fewer whales, dolphin and yellowtail to prey on squid=less squid to eat up Tuna Crabs and fin fish= more bait for fewer Yellowtail= harder to get Yellowtail to bite.
That's my guess for this year.

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crazywolfe wrote: I've seen large numbers of them several times this winter and last fall. and I know what they look like...don't think the experts are looking everywhere...it has seemed to be fewer larger sea mammals around, incl the bigger dolphins and whales  esp the sperms which were abundant a few years ago....
Get off the Pipe Dude. Apparently you do not know that you are talking about.  I am sure you know more than the folks who have been studying these poor creatures for many years. NOT! 

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We were close and personel with a large whale for about an hour yesterday a mile or so out from the tittas. Thought it was a fin whale at first, but checked my chart, and no doubt, it was a Beards beaked whale. No mistaking the lumpy head,and snout. About 30 feet long. He came up 15 feet from the boat at one point. Very cool !

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A few pods of Humpbacks have come through.

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We were out on Sunday as well trying to gather a few bottom feeders. Hit half a dozen marks (old hot spots) that were always productive for cabrilla, pargo, salmon blanco and others from 6 or 7 miles out to back near entrance to Algodones. 490 feet to about 110 feet. Chunk of squid and sardine and came back with only scorpios. They are about the best to eat but a pain to filet? Probably could have counted 30 or more commercials going and coming. How deep can they go with those nets, anyone know for sure?? About 2 miles off Tetas, there was a very large whale that stayed around as long as we could see. I am not sharp on whales at all but would guess at minimum 70 feet long. We saw no dolphins of any type, one sea lion and various seals.  Ynot

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no seals in the soc

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Ouch, we saw a very large whale, a brown sea lion?? some black mammals I guessed to be seals?? What were they? Sleep with tail and fin up? How deep do they go with the nets??Thanks,Ron

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All California Sea Lions !

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Thanks, lesson for the day! Who said something about teaching old dogs?? Ron

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Pq and I personally feed the seals at least one to five yellowtail a day so I think they doing ok.

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Wide open for those, anyway, I'll testify that there are marine mammals out there. Nobody wants to learn me up on the shrimpers/sardineros and depth of net capability?? I can take it, another growl and another Tecate, LOL?? We don't have a lot of seals in Wyoming. But I know the difference in deer, antelope, elk and moose, black and grizz. Does that count?? Ynot

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They have to drag nets across the bottom for the shrimp don't they? The by-catch is horrific.

As for me, I enjoy catching a bunch of pan size bottom fish and dusting off the disco for a fish fry. If it is bigger than the pan it goes back in the water. I really enjoy eating fresh water Croppie. 

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Dustin' off the disco?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxvBPH4sArQ

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Hahaha, I remember it well, But not the disco I had in Mind Craig. hahahaha

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Wy Ynot wrote: Wide open for those, anyway, I'll testify that there are marine mammals out there. Nobody wants to learn me up on the shrimpers/sardineros and depth of net capability?? I can take it, another growl and another Tecate, LOL?? We don't have a lot of seals in Wyoming. But I know the difference in deer, antelope, elk and moose, black and grizz. Does that count?? Ynot

According to Wikipedia, trawl nets can be pulled across bottoms 660 feet deep. I saw them regularily working depths of 125-600 in front of SC the last two years, and I suspect that all that trawling at San Antonio is responsible for tearing up that habitat as the lack of bait, bass, barracuda, bonita and yellow tail this year is unbelievable. Fish used to congregate there longer than the island, and there has literally been no fish there this year at all. Even the pangueros are avoiding it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trawling

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Thanks Jimmy, that's about what we always liked, anything that would fit al disco. Although we hauled up a grouper some years ago off the reef at the south end of the island that his head wouldn't fit in a 5 gal bucket and was as good as any 2 or 3 pounder we ever ate. It's just plain noticeably different this year over the last 9 or 10, anywhere we ever marked and depended on. Anywhere near doesn't hold fish or they changed completely their dinner habits. I respect Fernando, Craig, Bryan, Bullshipper and others who post for the rest of us to learn. We're not pros by any stretch but have considered ourselves fair fishermen for bait and fishing bottom. They just seem to not be where they always were. Guess there's a lesson there as well. Just wondering if those guys could get those nets 500 feet down and scrape a reef. Guess that was well answered and maybe proven. What are all these handlining pangueros doing to make a living? Catching and not just fishing I suppose, LOL. The worst day fishing is still better than a good day at work. Ron

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