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 Posted: Wed Dec 29th, 2010 06:08 pm
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Is there a link out there that give a "guess estimate" on the cost living in San Carlos vs Phoenix for example?:)

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Don't be fooled into thinking that it costs less here in Mexico. It will cost about the same as Phx. Unless you live in a shack and eat beens and tortillas by candle light. Utilities, gas for your vehicle, about the same, and a lot of the food you will want to eat is brought in from the states , and is higher priced because of import taxes-27%. I buy bread up North in Wal-Mart for 97 cents, here the same bread is 25 pesos. Most of the folks here have paid cash for their homes so they don't pay a mortgage. 

Perhaps someone else can chime in, and they have a different experience.

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Interesting, thanks.

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As a very general rule, materials are more expensive and labor is less expensive.  Dentists, general car repairs, etc are much less expensive than the US.  Electronics are more expensive here but not much different with more competiition now.  Property tax is much less as is rent.  The days of living on $600 a month are gone but I think it is generally less to live here if you live a modest life.  It is less to live in Hermosillo which has a similar climate to Phoenix.  You pay a bit more to live by the sea almost anywhere you go. 

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BTW, I just contracted for water, electric and sewer connections on a new lot in SC and it was almost $1,000 usd. That was just for the connections..

But, I do know of 1 Gringo who lives in a Mexican subdivision,  pay rent of 1400 pesos per month for a nice small 2 bdrm, 1ba.

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That would be about $4-5000 here for similar SDC's

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Anything that involves labor is cheaper, Vegetables, meat, fish, flowers,taxes are cheaper. Fuel, electric,water is about the same. Leisure items, Restaurants,golf, baseball in Hermosillo, movies etc. are cheaper. Maid service is cheaper as are most human services.
Taxes are cheaper as are medical costs and dental expenses.
Buses,transport etc. is cheaper.
You still need $2,000 per couple to live well and confortably.

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I have a 2 yr old 1500 sq ft 2 bed, 2 bath house here in San Carlos and a 1000 sq ft 2 bed 2 bath condo in Tucson. Here's some hard numbers for 2010.

SC house yr
prop taxes 195
prop trust 575
insurance 124
water 288
electric 354
phone 468 inc DSL
propane 77
Total $2081 or US$173 per mo

Tucson condo yr
prop taxes 670
insurance 141
electric 312
phone 264 no DSL
HOA 1656
Total $3043 or US$254 per mo

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Thank you all, info is very helpful.

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Nice Guy, thanks for a good detailed summary. I did notice that NOA fee. If you didn't have that it would be cheaper in Tucson.

Still, what is the price to live in Paradise?

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Not so Jimmy. If you didn't have HOA fees you would be paying for those costs of upkeep or utilities yourself and they would not necessarily be cheaper. They would certainly not be nonexistent.

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Yes, the water is buried in the HOA fees and there is no propane as it's all electric.

Some things are better here (beef, pork, fish, fruit) and some things are better or cheaper there (bagels, chicken, cheddar cheese, milk, eggs).

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Lots of good information.  The price of housing in Phoenix and other parts of the US has made a drastic change since 2008.  It used to be much cheaper to buy a home here but I don't think that is true anymore. 

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I love the Fruits and Veggies here. But the beans here, taste the same as up north. LOL

BTW, If anyone wants really fresh fish, go to the Fuel dock at Marina San Carlos and talk to Pedro, or who ever is on duty. You can order fresh fish for the next day from him. The next day they will catch the fish and you pick it up right after it is caught. All the local pangaderos get their fuel there and he will tell one what you want. Don't forget his tip.

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Don't let anybody fool you.  San Carlos is the most expensive place I have ever lived.  While housing, taxes, food, insurance and medical care are all cheaper, it is exteremely expensive to fish, play golf, eat out in restaurants, drink, fish, drink, golf, and generally messing around.  I am currently writing a book on how to live in San Carlos on $10,000.00 USD per month.  It is set for publication in 2012 but by that time I may have to increase the amount.  Es porque me nombre es Pobre Juan.

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It is exteremely expensive to play golf, eat out in restaurants, drink etc in Phoenix too.  Many people live here on social security alone.  When all is said and done, cost of living here is comparable to the US in my opinion.  I lived in Phoenix for many years and am very happy to live here.  It is not for everyone.  Living cheaply is not the reason to be here.  I would advise anyone thinking of moving here to rent for a while and find out if San Carlos is really for you. 

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I appreciate everyones input.

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dorados wrote: Don't let anybody fool you.  San Carlos is the most expensive place I have ever lived.  While housing, taxes, food, insurance and medical care are all cheaper, it is exteremely expensive to fish, play golf, eat out in restaurants, drink, fish, drink, golf, and generally messing around.  I am currently writing a book on how to live in San Carlos on $10,000.00 USD per month.  It is set for publication in 2012 but by that time I may have to increase the amount.  Es porque me nombre es Pobre Juan.

Hey, Probre Juan, I think it is very iresponsible of you to publish that kind of misleading information. Not many people can consume that amount of beer @ 10 pesos per beer. However, I will keep trying, but I can only manage to spend $2000 per month including all household expenses.

Guess I am lightweight :shock:  

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Maybe he/she means pesos?
Could you give us a detailed account of what you spend this on if it is in dollars?

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It is $10,000 USD per month.  Anybody that lives in San Carlos on $2000.00 dollars per month has obviously never met my fishing partner Jose.  Our last day of fishing went something like this.  We went out on my boat, drank my beer, ate my food, burned my fuel, lost $100.00 worth of my tackle, and when we got to the dock Jose needed the fish to feed his family so I gave them to him.  And oh, by the way, I paid him $70.00 for helping me dock the boat.  As soon as I finish washing the boat, I think I'll slide on over to Rubys and save some money on that 10 peso beer.( Jose had to pick up his kid at school driving a car I gave him.)  I wonder when Jose is going to pay me back that $200.00 I loaned him because his son or daughter or sister or brother or cousin or grandparents were sick again and needed medicine.  Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining.  Just trying to figure things out. Es porque mi nombre es Pobre Juan. 

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