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 Posted: Mon Mar 16th, 2020 09:26 pm
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For fear of stirring things up....

Death by pneumonia would be listed on the death certificate as "natural causes" with pneumonia listed as a "contributing factor".

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TrueBlue wrote: For fear of stirring things up....

Death by pneumonia would be listed on the death certificate as "natural causes" with pneumonia listed as a "contributing factor".


Killjoy--:cool:

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Frankie, I guess what my point was H1N1 packs a serious punch, H1N1 ( swine flu ) in 2009 killed many people, much more so far anyway than Novid. Not minimizing this virus, just things did not get shut down then. All good, it will pass!

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They just unloaded a tour bus at the Marina Tierra Hotel full of oriental tourists. Locals are saying they are Chinese.

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Well, no ban on flights into Mexico from China, looks like!!
Go figure...

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Here is the bottom line fear. Government officials aren't coming out and saying this, but they are reacting to the statistics in Italy.

There is this stat called "closed cases" on the virus. Closed cases are cases where people who caught it either recovered/were discharged from treatment facilities and declared over it or died from it. Those are closed cases, in both instances.

In Italy, 46% of the closed cases have resulted in death. That's right. Of all the persons who contracted it already and either recovered or died, 46% of them died.

There are thousands more in Italy (about 26,000 more, as of midnight, last night) who are in the statistic of "active cases". Of those, about 8% are in "serious or critical condition". Of the other 92%, they could improve or slip into that 8% category.

These currently on-going death percentages are WAY HIGHER than in China.

There are two significant factors in this, with respect to Italy.

-One is that Italy has the highest percentage of elderly persons in the world.

-Two is that it spread so quickly and overwhelmed their health care system so completely that they didn't have enough means (mostly aids to respiration, because most everyone is dying of respiratory failure) to treat all the elderly that became sick. They died before they could receive the treatment that might have saved them. Just not enough means to treat so many, in such a short time.

The health care officials in the US know fully well that if the curve continues to increase in the US, the US does not have the means of treating all the sick, elderly people, either. Many have already said this, openly.

So, until we get those means, they are recommending these seemingly draconian measures of closing virtually all non-essential person-to-person activities.

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remember my picture on post #61, here is what it looked like at about 10:30 this morning

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the line at Sam's club extended all the way back of the store where the refrigerated coolers are. Santa Rosa"s, many of the shelves  near empty!

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Bullshipper wrote: They just unloaded a tour bus at the Marina Tierra Hotel full of oriental tourists. Locals are saying they are Chinese.

Someone I know just went by the hotel and said there are military personnel everywhere, down there.


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frankie wrote: the line at Sam's club extended all the way back of the store where the refrigerated coolers are. Santa Rosa"s, many of the shelves  near empty!

Meh, that's just a normal line at most Costcos!! :D

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the CI bank here had a lot of traffic also!

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Y'all stay safe and hang in there and we will all get thru this difficult time together. Don't hoard, don't be silly on travel or meetings or whatever and give those close to you a big hug and just bang an elbow on the rest.

Bart & Linda

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Response to post #109 about the hotel...I drove by there at 5:35 and 7:30 pm and there was NOTHING going on.
No Asian visitors, buses, or military personnel in sight.

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There are some pics of the military presence on the What's Up Facebook Forum. They were there.

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I saw them on my house cameras.

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According to the update yesterday from the Mexican Ministry of Health, there is one confirmed case in Sonora. A 72 year old male who had visited the US.

https://www.gob.mx/salud/documentos/nuevo-coronavirus-2019-ncov-comunicado-tecnico-diario

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No offense, but after living in Mexico for over 35 years, I do not trust the news agencies. Nor do I have faith in the medical information that they may share with the public. Like they have actually tested people who are sick, have the tests? Or just testing in large cities? There are hardly any tests in the US for the population.....Things have changed globally with this new virus, and I am not an alarmist, but I am staying at home. You never know who might be a carrier. Why risk it? I have no underlying health issues, but you never know? Hopefully the warmer weather will make this virus go away. It keeps evolving, so who knows.....stay safe.

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Interesting reading.
Some of the posts did not age well :shock: 
The worst is yet ahead of us and I am thankful for this forum.
Please do your part. Don't be a spreader.
Thank you.

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I just heard on the news that the man in HMO did Not have covid-19 virus, it was a false positive test. He has been sent home.

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The statistics in Italy continue to be very alarming. 3500 new cases today. Their number of dead will surpass China sometime today or tomorrow. If the China statistics can be believed.


Italy's "closed cases" percentage has dipped a bit to 57-43;  recovered vs. dead.


So far, after a week's worth of social distancing and the closure of virtually everything, the curve is not flattening at all. But many Italians are ignoring the social restrictions. Over 200,000 citations have been issued in the last week or so.


I saw a pic of the Trevi Fountain in Rome today. Not a single person in sight. If you've been there, you know how unusual that is.

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