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 Posted: Thu Oct 10th, 2019 05:43 pm
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Saw This Last weekend , any one know what it means ?

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You should go talk to Jon and Judy Harris at their restaurant, SHOTS! to get the story directly from them about why and who is behind this smear campaign of lies intended to ruin their business.


It may be a mistake to start a conversation on this topic on a public forum, when everything here will be second hand and/or inaccurate speculation.


Jon and Judy can tell you what is going on.

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This is a pretty serious accusation.  One that we have known about for some time.  So if anyone does talk to the subjects of this, please let us know.

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It means what it says - J&J have not paid the rent for the restaurant. Go ask the Mar Ter condo assoc what it means to them.

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Nice guy, have heard that, what is their side of the issue??

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The owner of the building is asking for a boycott at Shots.

In Mexico, you can easily lose your property to squatters if your contract expires and they stop paying rent. Its usually argued that the the owner verbally agreed to give away the property, or not charge rent, and when rent is not paid, sets a precedence of acceptance. When in doubt posession is 9/10th of the law here, like many places.

Publishing their discontent obviously takes a stand, makes it publicaly known, and could be a way to solicit collaborating witnesses.

I do not know who is the shyster in this dispute. I am merely warning people about loaning out out their property, or accepting a lack of payment. It took me 4 years to remove a deadbeat, and another employee actually took over another small property one of my companies owned.

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Jon and Judy have always paid their legitimate RENT.
What they refuse to pay are the BOGUS, not-in-the-contract additional fees and charges that have been added to the rent.


Please don’t participate in ruining a business when you don’t know what is really going on.


  Ask Jon and Judy about these false charges.  They have won one lawsuit against these parties who are harassing them.  The current campaign is just a continuation of the unfounded lies those parties keep dreaming up.

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Hmmm... This doesn't make sense. Two different property owners rented their spaces to J&J.
They both now claim rent has not been paid for a lengthy time in either place. Wouldn't J&J have payment receipts to show they paid?

Marigot says J&J have paid their rent. Just not the bogus fees. So wouldn't the sign say that instead? "J&J haven't paid their fines and fees."? J&J could easily produce the bill for these fines and fees if one were issued to them.

I would think, as a property owner, that if your tenant paid rent, that is the agreement on both sides and everyone would be happy. Why go to such extremes to say differently if they were really being paid? What is the point of that?

Are the charges really false? Is it really unfounded lies? Landlords that are being paid would dream up lies to command a campaign?? To what end?

It doesn't make sense.

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make any sense??? nothing in San Carlos Nuevo Guaymas, Sonora, does!

welcome to the municipality of Guaymas Sonora.
 were everyone "LAWYERS UP" with attorneys who get their degrees out of cracker jack boxes! 
where litigation takes years as it travels the three tiers of the judicial court system!
if you have the intestinal fortitude for this, patience is a virtue!

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Could not agree more Frankie. If there is one place on earth, that you need to be attentive and follow the CORRECT procedure in any business related subject...It is Mexico.

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And sometimes, the people you do business with are the problem. Crooks come from all over and the nastiest ones "deny, denigrate, and dig in". That's what's happening here. Look who is IN both these properties....

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POST #11 since it is you who are denigrating please share with us what you know!
i think that would be fair since you have made innuendo!

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Sad, Sad, Sad!!! Everyone knows what they are getting themselves into when investing in anything in Mexico. And if not???? As the old saying goes, never invest what you cant afford to lose.

I'm not making a comment one way or the other about shots! None of my business. This is happening all around San Carlos. It has been for years. Just worse now.
Unless you Know someone with enough power. "That is the Keyword"! Otherwise your scr**$$.... The Multi-tiered judicial system rarely works in your favor. You will spend thousands and thousands waiting for your day in court. Depending on who your issues are with, YOU WILL NEVER WIN! Frankies right. EVERYONE IS A bar stool LAWYER and has all the right answers you want to "hear".. I hope all works out for J an J. Someone Riding around with a sign like that! "PLEASE!" Your Certainly not in Kansas anymore toetoe. So sad but true. Still, I will continue to come. Love San Carlos. I just won't own any longer.

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dolphin007 wrote: As the old saying goes, never invest what you cant afford to lose.

Unless you Know someone with enough power. "That is the Keyword"! Otherwise your scr**$$.... The Multi-tiered judicial system rarely works in your favor. You will spend thousands and thousands waiting for your day in court. Depending on who your issues are with, YOU WILL NEVER WIN! 
i don't totally agree with these statements!
personally i have bought and sold many properties here in San Carlos, and have been successful 99% of the time! it's the 1% we all hear about, the one you need to bring in a lawyer for!
i have gone through an abnormal share of attorney's here! very few are specialists in anything! it is difficult finding one, especially if your Spanish is limited and even when it is good! the majority are "ambulance chaser" types! comment from experience!
if you are lucky enough to find a good one, YOU CAN WIN!!
you only have to be tenacious and steadfast in your belief, and have the diligence and endurance to survive the time consuming litigation!


this particular problem and most real estate  problems are multifaceted!
* it starts with the agent you use for purchase. NO REAL EDUCATIONAL or FORMAL LICENCING requirements. 
* no errors and omission insurance.
* the use of a Notario as opposed to a title company
* no title insurance!
* a planning and zoning department with enforcement capabilities!

had this problem occurred NOB, there would have been at least 2 sources for recovery of damages and solution! the agents error and omission insurance, the title insurance policy!
but we are not NOB, we are here! 

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Frank, sorry, but I understood this to be a lease or rent, not owned real estate. Please clarify as your comments and those of d007 don't seem applicable here.

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Frank, sorry, but I understood this to be a lease or rent, not owned real estate. Please clarify as your comments and those of d007 don't seem applicable here.

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my comment was to address the same ole, same ole talking point, "never invest unless you can afford to lose"
myself and many, many others have had successful real estate dealings here! i will be first to attest, as i noted there is a small percentage of "bad deals"!!


i made my points, that it is a multifaceted problem, where some of the problems lay!
being here 18 years building and developing, i have run into ALMOST everything!

i have edited this post!
the restaurant / bar, through purchase, lease, rent or sublease are real estate transactions!
the points i addressed are valid in the purchase of a home. land or a business transaction!


until a purchase, lease, rent, sublease agreement can be provided or a combination of the mentioned, any comments are just speculation!



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How about running into reality. This is not the digging in front of CClub. This is the unpaid rent of the Mar Tierra slot that Shots is occupying. Close but different issues !!

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Just how deep has that sand gotten down there.:shock: I apologize for posting in the wrong topic area Bart. I rest my case.  No More posts from me.

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If they are resulting to using billboards, it sounds like the legal battles have been won by the tenets. I am guessing that they leased from the owner, and the owner is not paying the monthly fees.So now they are going after the tenets. Just a guess though.

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