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 Posted: Tue Oct 22nd, 2019 03:38 am
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The plot thickens

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The letters from the condo and commercial space owners seem present a compelling argument and background of the situation to me. They are not afraid of putting their names and escritura info.

http://jonjudyharris.com/2019/10/22/commercial-comercial-condo-owner/

http://jonjudyharris.com/2019/10/22/open-letter-condo-owner/

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Wow what do you think of that George?  You are known by your friends, I told them to stay away from you..






The George being referred to is George Gleason lives out near La Monga.

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Thank you Flaco , these are pretty clear and unambiguous .



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Very damning.

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There is no plot to thicken. It's clear - premeditated intention to steal from the owners as long as possible.

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Hmmmm!!

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That is a kind of nebulas picture Frankie...that guy getting tarred and feathered could be anyone.  Should we guess??

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I appreciate that the moderator Bart has not shut down or interfered with this thread. When this same topic appeared on the other board, it was shut down very quickly.

What is the difference between burglarizing someone's house and not paying rent for two years? Answer: Much more in rent has been stolen than what is normally burglarized from a house. Both are thievery, pure and simple.

I support the property owners 100%.

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emc2 wrote: I appreciate that the moderator Bart has not shut down or interfered with this thread. When this same topic appeared on the other board, it was shut down very quickly.

What is the difference between burglarizing someone's house and not paying rent for two years? Answer: Much more in rent has been stolen than what is normally burglarized from a house. Both are thievery, pure and simple.

I support the property owners 100%.
bart, is an excellent MODERATOR!! i have had PM's from him to tone it down, maybe even got my hand spanked! my posts here have never been edited or altered!
it's the difference of being a moderator/umpire as to being a moderator/player!
as i stated in an earlier post i also support the property owners!!

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Support doesn't restore the owners losses. I don't go to Shots - tried it once - too noisy. So other than not going - how do you de-support and unfund the Shots thieves.

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Easy. If no one goes to Shots, the owners will leave town.

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I for one will not patronize this establishment any longer. We used to go to their annual Thanksgiving dinner. Never again! (wasn't that good to begin with) Used to stop in after boating for a tequila shot...no more.

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MARIGOT wrote: You should go talk to Jon and Judy Harris at their restaurant, SHOTS! to get the story directly from them about why and who is behind this smear campaign of lies intended to ruin their business.


It may be a mistake to start a conversation on this topic on a public forum, when everything here will be second hand and/or inaccurate speculation.


Jon and Judy can tell you what is going on.




Why don't you ask them to defend themselves and their business on this forum. I would like to hear both sides.

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Given that the libel laws in Mexico are pretty severe , that two independent parties have published their letters / statements with checkable facts I would be inclined to give them credibility.


The sad thing  , apart from the victims , is the good people in town who will believe criminals like this and think they are being persecuted . ( and I bet there are a lot ) 


Ironically I am now in Spain , and I can see how the Mexican laws wound up the way they have - here if some low life breaks in and stays in your property - you the owner can be the one homeless for a long time. Equally if you rent and they stop paying - good luck , it is a night mare to regain possession. 


Serial abusers like this do not have the moral compass normal people do , very sad for the property owners suffering all this.


It is also sad that the information has been so contained amongst the foreign born community , thankfully this forum is constructively run ( although some posters must try the moderators patience at times ! ) and may help disseminate the facts.


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All power to the billboard ! 

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I usually stay neutral on issues like this, but I cannot in this case.  I don't know the condo owner but have known Susan for many years and consider her a friend as well as a former client.  Her reputation is above reproach in my book.


While I can do nothing to influence the outcome of the legal issues involved, I can take an action that is within my capability and have done so.  


The two free ads this business enjoyed on http://www.sancarlosmexico.com are now history.


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I am pleased to have shared the links provided by Flaco along with my commentary to my public  Facebook page , in the hopes that local friends will widen the knowledge sharing.


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BRAVO!!! BART!

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One way to pressure is to go criminal and I believe that there may be a case for elder abuse with the threats alegedly made by the younger man, as well as loss of income,hardship and worry for elderly retired owners.
It does not matter that the owners are Americans as the law is the law, and all it takes are a couple of witnesses willing to testify that they have heard the threats to substantiate a case. If the civil case has been judged in their favor, that adds evidence for the loss of income and a few tears in front of the magistrate never hurt to demonstarte worry.
Remember, here the accussed in Mexico must prove his innocence, not the other way around as is the custom in the states.
I would also looking to their working status to see if they have working papers, are up to date on their tax payments, social security payments, etc.
And if the condo association is owed dues, I believe they may have the right post notices in front of the establishment on association common area, instead of just on the road.

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Not sure I totally agree with this statement from Bullshipper


"In Mexico, you can easily lose your property to squatters if your contract expires and they stop paying rent. Its usually argued that the the owner verbally agreed to give away the property, or not charge rent, and when rent is not paid, sets a precedence of acceptance. When in doubt posession is 9/10th of the law here, like many places."



This is an American who is refusing to pay his bills, same thing happened when Jim ran Marina Cantina into the ground and Rick finally took him out. It wasn't easy to get rid of the crappy managers, and yes I understand that Shot's was a contract to purchase the building that has not been full filled,  but Rick was never in danger of really loosing the building. It cost him a bundle to get them out though.



I know the owners of the building, have known them for over a decade, they are on the level, the history of Jon speaks for itself. If the dude paid his bills we would be hearing nothing of this.



It would be a non issue.



The corrupt Judicial system is what makes life difficult here. AMLO is not addressing any of it, the 4th transformation has not even begun....

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