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 Posted: Wed Oct 9th, 2019 02:53 am
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There are now reports that people with 350/3500 pickups are being turned away or forced to go back to the border to Aduenda SAT to prove it's not a commercial vehicle at km21 Nogales. Seems they were either towing a cargo trailer or no trailer. Wonder if anyone there in SC has just recently come down pulling an RV and had problems. Also, have there been any problems at Empalme with 1 ton pickups? I got my 10 year for the 5th wheel, but the website now won't even let me in to where I can fill out the form for the pickup. My title says the truck weighs 6600 pounds. We plan on crossing at Lukeville and haven't heard any problems there yet.

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Where did you read this?

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On The Road in Mexico page on Facebook. I know that some of the crossings in Texas have been having this problem for several years but the first I heard about Nogales.

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 Posted: Wed Oct 9th, 2019 03:39 am
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Yeah, I do remember the uproar at the Texas crossings.

How many drivers have reported it?

Are you a dually?

If not, maybe get to your local junkyard and find a couple old F250 or 2500 emblems and stick em on, for the crossing. :D

Nothing on the RV.net forums.

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So far on the same FB page two others have had the same problem, and on another post there, three people who got their TIP on line had theirs cancelled. Oh well, if I can't get the TIP in Sonoyta, (San Emiterio) I'll try Empalme, and if not there guess we'll stay in San Carlos for the winter.

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You cannot get a tip for a truck or car in Mexico.

The issue is that they probably think truckers are making money hauling cargo in Mexico for other people.

If the registration for your vehicle is in your name and the Trailer has a tip in your name, you are within your rights all the way to Empalme.

If you go farther south, get your 6 month permit at the border to bring your truck to accompany the 10 year TIP you have for your trailer.

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Be careful with a TIP for the RV trailer. I got one years ago, went to return it at K21, was told to hold on to it in case I returned with it to MX. Well I sold it to folks who live in Washington state, and now Banjercito will not cancel it without seeing the trailer! I even provided a copy of the new owner's title and sale information, and Banjercito just said "sorry". But I have been told that within the "safe zone" a TIP is NOT needed for any vehicle. Who knows.

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stanbnv wrote: So far on the same FB page two others have had the same problem, and on another post there, three people who got their TIP on line had theirs cancelled. Oh well, if I can't get the TIP in Sonoyta, (San Emiterio) I'll try Empalme, and if not there guess we'll stay in San Carlos for the winter.

Were they all duallies? Are you a dually?


I am unclear about the sequence of events. Where were they stopped in Nogales and checked to see the weight of their trucks? Was it at the Aduana checkpoint on the toll road, just past the first toll booth headed south? Was it at K21? 


What happened then? They were sent to WHERE to clear this up? And did they clear it up or were they forced to go back to the States and not enter Mexico?


Sorry for all the questions, but I prefer not to use Facebook, if at all possible.

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I don't have a dually, one said they didn't have a dually and had a short bed, the other ones didn't say. They all were denied a TIP at km21 and told they could not enter Mexico but one was told to go back to the border and Aduenda there cleared her as passanger vehicle. She had the short bed.

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As I said, you will not ever get a tip for a regular vehicle. TIPs are for RV's, Trailers, and Boats.

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There are two types of TIPS. One is the 10-year permit that many RVs and boats are issued.

The other one that is also called a TIP is the one that most cars and trucks can get that are of a much shorter duration. They are tied to the length of your "visa" (temporary or tourist). They allow you to drive these vehicles outside of the hassle-free zones (generally all of Baja, northern Sonora and a small area along the Guatemala-Mexico border).

Here is a link from Sanborn's Insurance that specifically talks about dealing with Banjercito and getting this permit.

https://www.sanborns.com/vehicle_permit/

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It sounds like the Banjercito office at K21 is the office in question. They are resisting issuing the passenger vehicle TIP to persons trying to secure one for travel south of Empalme. Presumably, persons towing a 5th wheel or a travel trailer are stopping to get the passenger vehicle TIP, even though they already possess the RV TIP on the towed vehicle (which they WOULD legally have to do; the RV TIP does not cover the vehicle towing). Or, maybe they are trying to get both at the same time.

Someone from San Carlos should take their 1 ton down to the Empalme station and ask if there is any reason why they cant be issued a passenger vehicle TIP.

In any event, there have been no issues with 1-ton trucks simply entering the hassle-free zone, correct? All these denials have been for persons attempting to obtain a passenger vehicle TIP?

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Hook, as far as I know yes they are heading farther south. 

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OK - I'm confused. We are bringing a travel trailer to San Carlos this winter. It is my understanding that I do not need a TIP for my pickup as we will not be going beyond the "free zone". Do I need a TIP for my travel trailer if I am not going past San Carlos? Thank you in advance......

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Generally, YES, you need an RV type TIP for the travel trailer, even if you plan on staying in the "free zone". It's been that way for a few years now.

If I were you, I would get the TIP on line.

Are you a 1-ton truck?

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No -we are in a 3/4 ton.  I appreciate the information.  I was getting confusing info when searching online.  Some say no TIP necessary for RV but I also saw reference to TIP's for travel trailers.  Thank you for your input:)

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We have a friend who is always denied entry on his pickup when he goes in to get an "all of Mexico' sticker. They look at the weight and say it's commercial so he just tells them to walk with him to the truck and when they see it they know it's only a passenger vehicle and  he is given the permit.  He does not pull a trailer.  So, I would say that if you are only coming to SC you don't need any kind of permit on your verhicle but you do need a regular TIP on an RV/5th wheel, etc. 

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Kiwi wrote: We have a friend who is always denied entry on his pickup when he goes in to get an "all of Mexico' sticker. They look at the weight and say it's commercial so he just tells them to walk with him to the truck and when they see it they know it's only a passenger vehicle and  he is given the permit.  He does not pull a trailer.  So, I would say that if you are only coming to SC you don't need any kind of permit on your verhicle but you do need a regular TIP on an RV/5th wheel, etc. 

Where is he denied entry on his pickup? At Empalme?

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No, at K21
The only reason they are giving him trouble is that they see his vehicle papers (weight) when he purchases a "all of Mexico" permit.If he was coming to SC he would just drive on through.



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Do you need a TIP for a Class A motor home? with a vehicle as a toad?

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