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 Posted: Tue May 28th, 2019 12:21 am
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Posting on both boards so everyone can be aware and prepared.

https://opinionsonora.com/2019/05/27/fuerzas-policiacas-federales-estatales-y-municipales-pediran-documentacion-de-vehiculos/



Used Google to translate.  It is my understanding that "autos chocolates" are cars imported from the USA.


Guaymas, Sonora.- In order to reduce crime rates in the region, federal, state and municipal authorities will request documentation from drivers of both domestic and foreign vehicles, as well as motorcycles, their licenses, driving cards, permits to drive without license plates and in the case of the cars 'chocolates', the affiliation to some civil organization, besides that it will be checked that no vehicle possesses polarized in the windshield glass.


The director of the Department of Public Security, Silvestre Armenta Ramírez, informed that this was agreed in the talks held at the meeting of the Territorial Bureau for Peace and Security, Guaymas-Empalme Region, between the three levels of government.


Armenta Ramírez, detailed that any police authority of the three levels of government is entitled to request documentation and only that if required, municipal traffic officers will be asked to take charge of applying the corresponding fines and towing vehicles, all based on the current Transit Law of the State of Sonora.


The head of the corporation said that the operation will start in two or three weeks, a prudent time for people who have some kind of problem with the documentation to catch up and there are no excuses.


The public official explained that every minor who drives a motor vehicle, must have his permission to drive without a driver's license.

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Wonder if this includes checking for out of date NOB plates, or Perm Residents driving NOB plated vehicles.

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If this is true, and not just an excuse to shake down well-to-do drivers, they will be kept busy, 24/7, with Mexican nationals driving cars without ANY license plate. It's incredibly common in Sonora. Then there's the one's with the dark window tinting, too.

I do see a fair amount of underage kids driving ATVs around, too, especially in the Ranchitos.

Speaking of which, I see a lot of ATVs with NO licensing. Is that legal in Mexico?

I'm not certain what "chocolates" are either but, based on the translation above, some type of affiliation with a civil (civic?) organization seems to be involved. It doesn't appear to be a straight importation of a vehicle from the States.

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This article also made El Portal de Las Noticias, virtually word for word.

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Good. You all should know that to drive a Sonora plated car you must have a Sonora DL. And over 70 in Sonora you need a DR. signature on the application

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"chocolates" are cars that are driven into Mexico from the US without being registered or imported.  I don't remember the actual term but it is a word similar to "chocolates" so that word is use instead.

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The Spanish word you are referring to is "chuecos". And yes, 'carros chocolates" is the slang used.

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I noticed quite an increase in inspections in March and April. I was pulled over more times in 6 weeks of March and April to provide proof of ownership, license, immigration status, etc.... than the 13 previous years. Hermosillo, Guaymas, Empalme, Vicam, Navojoa. (Obregon no, thank you bypass. :D ).

Of course everything was in order, so the stops were brief. Now, I did travel extensively in those 2 months, so that increases the chances. But on one occasion it happened three times in the same day.

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nice guy wrote: Good. You all should know that to drive a Sonora plated car you must have a Sonora DL. And over 70 in Sonora you need a DR. signature on the application

This increased enforcement is aimed at deterring crime in Mexico. Gringos, who probably make up 99% of the readers of both boards, driving Sonora plated vehicles are not the focus of this enforcement. I'll bet 90+% of gringos with Mexican plated vehicles have a Mex DL. It's cheap and no test is required. Just go down to the guy in the van in the Burger King parking lot.


But, yes, it's good. It's good that they will begin enforcing licensing laws on vehicles. It's too easy to commit a crime in an unlicensed vehicle and get away with it.

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Nice Guy,
"Wonder if this includes checking for out of date NOB plates"
Why does this concern you? It is nothing but a state tax in the US........ By the way my plates are current from South Dakota, which I have not been to in 50 plus years... I hope that makes you feel better............

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Cars that are not licensed are not paying annual registrations and license fees. Many here in Sonora have tried to appeal the yearly fees, so its a political football.
The chocolate organizers like Onappa promise to vote in block around election time in exchange for their free import and registration status, so that's another political football.
All have been checked regularily for many years, but this is clearly a PR announcement to inform the poorer owners that inspections will be targeting chocolates in an attempt to raise more money coming into government coffers while the Moreno party is cutting back on expenses at the same time.

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So, is this no longer considered the ‘hassle free’ zone for vehicles?

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No plates, plates with expired tags, expired driver licenses and registrations
Will attract their attention.

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I consider it more like a "hassle" zone for those that don't pay their share.

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I would be very interested in reading the experiences of gringos driving foreign plated cars who are stopped and inspected.
Please post what happens during any stops since this goes into effect.

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And another related article. Google Translate on this one is a little rougher. Perhaps someone more familiar with foreign vehicle registration laws of Sonora could provide some clarity.

https://opinionsonora.com/2019/05/30/correra-la-policia-serie-a-carros-chocolate-para-ver-si-son-robados/

Guaymas, Sonora.- The Municipal Public Security Directorate will install a revision module in the Guaymas Norte sector, in which the series will be 'run' to the 'chocolate' cars to verify that they do not have a report robbery, and at the same time they will give to their possessors a decal that will help them when the import process starts.

The module will be installed on the boulevard 'San José de Guaymas', almost in front of the Cobach, where Public Security staff will do the verification of the series of this type of car, announced Professor Jesus Fernando Chávez Vázquez.

The coordinator of the National Council for the Protection of Mexican Families A.C. (Conapafam) reported that the module will operate from 8 in the morning to 5 in the afternoon on Saturday, June 1, and from 9 to 5 in the afternoon on Sunday, 2 of the same month.

He made a call to the possessors of 'crooked' cars to come and ask for the verification of the series of their unit, so that they receive the stickers, which will be four in total, as well as a document that proves the non-theft of the same.

He explained that the stickers of the series will be useful for when the process of importing cars of foreign origin comes, since it is a requirement that the customs agencies request to carry out this process.

He mentioned that the verification of the series and the issuance of the stickers and the letter of no theft will require a recovery fee, something very accessible to the pocket, but very useful to move with greater tranquility, and especially for the already very close process of regularization.

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