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 Posted: Sat Dec 15th, 2018 07:47 pm
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i'm getting conflicting information on this issue.  We will be driving a GMC extended cab pick up with canopy , fully loaded , if it is "over weight" can we get a special permit to bring it in? it's currently at 6200 lbs without adding the weight of the canopy.  If this is the incorrect forum, please let me know..Thank you.

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I think you're getting conflicting information because there was a period about two years ago where they were saying that 1 ton trucks were not allowed in, period. There was a specific weight rating, but I cant remember what it was, but it was basically 1 tons. There was no permit that alleviated this, as I remember. It was no go.

It only lasted a short time and was MOSTLY when crossing at the Texas border crossings. But I did talk to one person in the last two weeks who said he was stopped for this reason at Nogales Mariposa. They eventually let them enter after he sat there for many hours and they felt sorry for him (or so he thought). This was also during that period a couple years ago.

I havent heard of anything recently. I crossed in a 1 ton truck in November with no problem. I was pulling a utility trailer and they just wanted to make sure I had the registration and compared the VIN numbers on the trailer.

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the maximum GWVR  is 7716 which basically means with our canopy and a fuel plus 2 people and a wee bit of gear we will be over the GWVR limit. But, San Carlos is in the "free zone" correct so not sure how the TIP goes for something like that.  Researching further. Thank you for your info.

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and this truck is rated at 2 which is correct, means 2T with a GWVR of 6200. My scale is 4216, max allowed is 7716. Just don't know if they are going to weigh us out at scale, with fully loaded we could easily get close to the 7716 max.

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I have never seen an operating scale on Hiway 15. I cannot imagine you would have a problem. I am curious, what is the conflicting information you have heard that worries you?

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If your load is more than 7316? Or whatever the max is...you will get turned away..others say no worries if your gwvr is less than that no matter what you are carrying scale wt you are good to go. Hubby says no way! We will be carrying over our 6200 gwvr so there goes my plans to pack all i want!!! Thank you!!

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What year is this GMC? Isn't it a half ton truck?

When this was being enforced, they were looking at the designation on the truck, i.e., 350, 3500, etc. If they had a question, they would look at the sticker on the door jamb. But there was never any attempt to actually weigh the truck with the goods in back. Even empty 1 ton trucks were being turned back for a short time. It was the rating, not what they were carrying.

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Who would turn you away? Unless you get a red light, they don't even look at the vehicle anymore. There are certainly no scales you go through. Kind of confused here.

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There are many single tire and dual tire one tons down here from the US and Canada. Drive through Totonaka RV park and look. Many MX plated one tone mostly used for delivery. I have never seen a permanent or portable scale here. That's why the roads are in such "broken, cracked, rutted and potholed" disrepair. Whatever the big guys can pile on is the limit (space), not weight. I think your worries are misplaced. I would want to be the last to give you bad advice or get you in trouble. Ron

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Dont know which crossing they were speaking of. We will carry legally abd be within our limit

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RichD wrote: Who would turn you away? Unless you get a red light, they don't even look at the vehicle anymore. There are certainly no scales you go through. Kind of confused here.

If you are carrying bikes they stop you every single time regardless of red light /green light.  Same for a trailer.  Maybe the same for a camper shell, just to have a look. 

But couldn't imagine they would stop you for weight.  I mean, buses and semis travel the road by the hundreds every single day.



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I did some research on this issue for another project and my sources included web sites for those who operate RV caravans going into Mexico.  Basically if you are driving a half ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup you won't have an issue.  However, the new very large fifth wheel RV haulers that have become popular that are built on commercial truck chassis, like a Freightliner, Kenworth, Ford 550, etc are not allowed in.  Mexico considers these to be commercial vehicles and won't permit them.


My personal experience is based on several years of driving a Chevy 2500, crew cab long bed diesel with a camper shell on the bed.  I would often get stopped so inspectors could look inside the shell, but never had an issue with the size of the truck.


Hope that helps.  Your GMC should not have an issue.


Bart



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thank you Bart! so looking forward to our long term stay in San Carlos and didn't want to start out with a problem.  Now we can just move forward with fixing up the canopy shell and not have to worry about the weight issue.

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Even though you may get a green light, the are likely to pull you over because of your size and my want to see what you are carrying in case you did not declare taxable items.

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