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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2019 08:23 pm
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 May I ask how many live in San Carlos as a permenent resident? Official card carring resident of MX? ( I ask, because many live here with no official anything let alone permission to stay longer then supposed)  Im not suggesting you do nor am I passing judgement on others. To each is own down here.  San Carlos is a beautiful little VERY INEXPENSIVE PLACE TO LIVE AND BE NEAR THE OCEAN. That is impossible to find these days in the USA.
So I do feel fortunate and greatful to have experienced living here. Look how many brand new full timers have moved down here.   Like I said before, regardless of the problems, people will continue to come.    

 Back to my original question, It would appear that if anyone answer YES to both questions, then you have to be aware of the WATER running through the ground pipes is terrible and getting worse rather then better.. We talk as if these words are Greek to our ears. This baffles me! The water situation is not good. We are buying water from private sources and still paying a monthly water bill. Is This an acceptable practice? Does it sound very Lawful? In the States that would be a crime. But We are guest here in Mexico.. 
  

Like other issues we are presently having The golf course is no exception. It's had a fare share of problems or some scam going on.. 


Why bust poster Alermans Bal**?  The guy pointed out a very valid issue! He never said anyone would CATCH THE CRUD. HE SAID THE WATER WAS NASTY SMELLING and carried bacteria, the pumps dont work properly etc.. True or not?   Give the man a break.
This is not the USA, Canada, etc.., Sounds down righ logical that touching the wet ground out on the golf course COULD put a person at higher risk of catching an intestinal bug.  Just sounds logical. Im not the expert, just try to use common sense...

Here in these small towns and pueblos of Mexico this is NO BIG surprise or even a big deal! This has been the NORM in Guaymas for a long time!


This is still treated a a third world Country that chooses to invest very little into the infrastructure of San Carlos. I dont say that in meanness, I say that with what Ive seen over the past years with my own eyes.
Is this sad, I think so. But?????  Nothing were going to do about it unles we decide to pony up EVERY LAST DIME TO FIX IT!   ( Every year, Things get done in SC to accomodate Semana Santa After that, it seems down hill until next Feb. One Month before the biggest MONEY MAKING holiday occures.


So Alermans comment does sounds logical to me. I wonder just how many people actually agree and dont say because they dont want the stigma of being a SHEET DISTURBER! 



Fact is we have raw sewage that runs down the main streets and many side streets  much of the time. 
TRASH stacked everywhere, and Guaymas is far worse! 
Our Pipes are broken much of the time. 
So why the big push to defend or argue about the crappy water. 


I'd say Nasty gross smelling bacteria carring water on the Country club golf course isnt a far fetched theroy at all..  

I hope Alerman does follow through with the test. Maybe he decided it wasnt in the best interest to do so????????????   Just saying?

I think their are a lot of people who want to know the TRUTH. 
If the TRUTH is even a possability???

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I really think this will end up like chasing your own tail.
No one is getting sick, are they?
Did the golf course obligate themselves in writing or say they would only use chlorinated potable water for irrigation too?
Will the water test reveal what pathogens , bacteria or virus it carries or just if it meets state potable standard. Are they really going to go to the expese of culturing the samples for days to see whats in them?
Really, are a lot of golfers getting sick?

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It's hard to tell. Seems like the whole town has been sick, at one point or another, this year. A mystery flu (that even people who got flu shots still contracted) and a bad head cold are the most common ailments. The flu can leave you with a wet cough for weeks afterwards.

But all this has affected many people who dont live on the course, nor play golf.

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Hook, I and many can relate to your statement. I too am one of those who picked up a bacterial intestinal virus,
( not food poisoning. )

I was seen by a doctor in Guaymas, placed on a strong antibiotic. The doctor himself told me that in his opinion, the trash and sewage have become a serious health issue and has become a problem for many residents both in Guaymas and San Carlos. I WAS SO DANG SICK, wasn't really getting better after 2 rounds of meds so I ended up going to the states to see a gastrointestinal specialist. After explaining my symptoms and the length of time, the specialist asked me what had changed recently in my diet or environment. 


 I did tell him I live full time in San Carlos, Mexico. I stressed that I hardly ever get sick and I wasn't new to my environment.... Fortunately;), this particular doctor has a home in Rocky Point Mexico, so I didn't have to listen to the same old song and dance about MEXICO'S DOCTORS, med's, sickness, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! ( thank goodness)
 I have a fine very competent doctor in San Carlos that does a far better job than many American doctors I've seen!! So that wasn't an issue at all.. ( My SC Doc was not in town at the time)



Nothing could be pinpointed specifically.   I felt like I had serious flu symptoms. ( just sick!) major abdominal and intestinal pain, a really, really bad hacking cough, no cold symptoms, which was odd. ( 3 weeks of this) I finally got better,( except a cough!)
Better so I thought! 1 week later it was back with a vengeance, So back on the medicine, finally after almost 2 full months, I got better. ( I had stayed at my other home in Phoenix the second time around ) I was really under the weather. What caused this? Dunno?
I hadn't left SC since Feb 2018. I became sick during the summer. The U.S. doctor could only speculate. The doctor in Guaymas told me that he had seen many cases during this same time. He said they just didn't know why so many people were getting so sick. He said that excessive garbage and sewage in the streets cause more rodents and disease to spread. However no direct link to this. The doctor seemed concerned about the existing environment deteriorating so rapidly.



FYI:  I had NOT been out on the golf course directly playing golf at anytime prior to getting sick but had been often to visit a friend who lives right on the course. Personally, I don't think I picked up my bug from the grass on the course, but I do find it odd just how many people were so terribly sick with this same NASTY CRUD this past summer. I have plenty of garbage and sewage on my own street this summer! Hopefully, everything will work out at the golf course.


It sure would be nice if we could get our water back and the garbage picked up "regularly"  That would probably help tremendously. There is no reason San Carlos should be experiencing any of these trash and water issues!  The infrastructure problems have been a long time coming. No excuse.   

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When water is sprayed, it is areated, and therefore reacts with oxygen, oxidizing the Amonia componds. The nitrites in the air are quickly dispersed and absorbed making there momentary stink during that reaction, and the water is exposed to UV which helps to kill less resistant pathogens.

All low lying areas, like seasides, are more prone to aquifier contamination with sewage that travels less than 25 feet through the earth prior to mixing with rain water. So I persoanlly am more concerned about our pumping plant running out of chlorine or failing to douse, than water I don't drink. As most golf courses advertise, you should never drink irrigation water and you should wash up prior to eating or after coming in contact.

This practice has been in place for over 50 years, and I personally have never heard of a course being sued. I am a golfer, live on the golf course in the USA and also in Solimar, and this is not something to fret over yet, imo.
But again, I will continue to buy bottled water, like everyone else in Mexico.

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Water is been Tested now

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Okay...what are the results?

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I think he meant being tested

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Of course.  Somehow I read that as ‘has been tested now’, like done already.  My bad

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Though the title of this thread is about the golf course water issue, it SHOULD also be titles San Carlos Water Quality - and in that regard I can suggest two things that would benefit residents:
1. If you own a home then consider installing a "home" water purification system. Expensive? some are and some are not. You would select the system that reflects how much time you spend in San Carlos. The investment enhances your home and experience in San Carlos.
2. If you have a tanaka for water storage be sure to purify the water as much as you need to stay healthy. My military and RV experiences have taught me that 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons of water will keep you healthy. Consider filling up 5-7 gallon jugs and treating the water if you must pay the local water bill.

Lastly - just realize - the problem of deteriating water will never be fixed by the local authorities.

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Alerman 69, did the test results come back yet??

Also, Poster#50 does make a good point. if one doesn't have a filtration system. ;-0)

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I would think that since it was said the test would be done the first week of Jan. And now it's the middle of Feb. there will be no test done.

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I'm pretty sure most people can see with their own eyes what has happened in San Carlos with regards to the water situation and other real concerns in general.. We are one little sector/colony of Guaymas. Oh well........:(

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You Old Gringos never learn.
You will always take it up the butt and or pay because that is all you can do.
You will always be taken advantage of. Why? Because as I was once told,
"what do you expect?"
You will continue to complain but do nothing. Why? You have no other place to go.
You accept raw sewerage in the streets and no water, dirty beaches and hit or miss trash pickups. You accept this as "this is Mexico".
Would you accept this from where you came from? No.
But living in your "PARADISE" you accept anything no matter how degrading.
So to all you Old Gringos. Stop complaining and just Pay and Pay like you always do.

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Let me say this clear, I been threatened by the owner of the Golf Course and served paper by the Police and I still will after the meeting with my Attorney Publish the results.


All I say play safe

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Aleman69-How did Lenny threaten you? He's usually to drunk to see pass his tequila glass. When do you meet with your attorney?

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By filling false accusation in the Court of Guaymas, I needed to hire a Attorney to protect my self from his LIES

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ALEMAN 69, I'm a guest in this Country, hold a permanent resident card. I'm not confused.  I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND WHAT my limitations are in this country!

IMHO, I wouldn't respond anymore on this thread!! If you choose to reveal the water results later great, if not that's okay. DON'T EVER feel pressured to answer to any of us on any of these boards. I do believe you have submitted the water sample :O)  
If threats weren't LEGITIMATE, then everyone who's been shafted in and around that golf course or ALL the other shakey deals People have invested in would ALL have their money back, Food for thought. 


Asking you to engage any further in this topic is wrong. Some will believe you. Some won't.:?


Nobody can disagree the intire infrastructure of S.C. needs to be rebuilt. ( water, sewage, electrical, roads etc!! ) Will this happen, probably not. It's been going on for some years now.. 
 Just look what shape Guaymas is in. Many Mexican people in Guaymas are perfectly happy with THEIR cute little beach town of San Carlos. Some Mexican folks believe too much money is spent in San Carlos already..:D:cool: Most of us have a choice. 
Accept or leave, that simple..

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I live on 2 golf courses and understand your pain.Its just that the water company supplies their water and they will have to remedy the problem at their source unless the golf course wants to upgrade their equipment and add to their day to day expenses. Good luck with that.

I doubt if you can evrn bring much pressure on the state government as they are one of the newspapers larget sdvertising clients.

But if it stinks on Beltrones, the wind will spread your message

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