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I am new to this forum and am going to drive from Phoenix to San carlos on hwy 15. 


I see there are travel warnings from USA Government. I also am told about kidnappings, corrupt police on the high way, and overall danger. Has anyone had any experience recently driving? I was planning to visit Nov 8 thru 12....Now I am not sure. 


Any thoughts??

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I have never heard of a tourist having any problems on Hwy 15 during daylight hours. Cartel violence is real but they shoot each other or the people chasing them. Use common sense like you would traveling in Europe or anywhere else. Don't flash around money or expensive jewelry, stay on the main roads, don't have anything to do with people that sell drugs.

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I have driven that route many times in the last nine years, since moving to San Carlos.  If the many single women that live here are safe making the drive alone, you are too.

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Michael,


Totally understand your thoughts - back in 07 I was worried crossing into Baja with Wife and Daughter. ( First time ) 


10 years later I would not worry about either of them driving alone from SC to the US or vice a versa.


Truthfully if you travel in daylight it is now a very easy trip.  Your greatest attention needs to be on driving and watching out for other road users , even the chance of getting a shady cop stop you for a bribe is highly unlikely - if it happens be polite and insist they give you a ticket. Don't pay a bribe which is illegal . 


The reason you will hear everyone say daylight is not so much that bad guys come out at night but for safety on the road - at night there could be horse or cow you will not see , and most of the highway is not lit. Much harder to do at night especially first time - I have done it but knew the road well at the time so was a lot easier .


Come down and enjoy - weather right now is perfection !


Welcome to San Carlos :)

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 My husband and I just drove the Tucson/San Carlos route on 15 in both directions in the
month of October, 2 weeks apart. We traveled during the daylight only for reasons stated above. Also note that as you are coming into Mexico on 15 only the first toll booth is legitimate and you must pay the proper toll in pesos. The second and third toll booths are closed but people will be standing there with safety vests and an unofficial bucket to collect whatever amount of money you will put in it.  Just drive slowly through with your windows up, no problem. That’s what we did. There were absolutely no events to speak of.  As you’re coming through Hermisillo things get a little tight with the lanes, three lanes going each way with no good lines on the road, just be alert for bad drivers. 

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See the trip planning segment at http://www.sancarlosmexico.com for more information .

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I've driven it many times at night, especially the leg of Hermosillo to SC.

It's not like driving at night in Baja, where there is no berm and no fence to keep cattle off the roads. I have literally never seen an animal on Hwy 15 in the last 15 years of driving it.

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We trip to Tucson about each 3 months. The most terrible danger I see is oncoming "passers" in the 2 way construction areas. Those will soon be divided interstate again. If our State Dep't., CNN and other news scares you, you will never again go to Denver, much less Phoenix. The entire state of Sonora doesn't come close to Phoenix problems in my opinion. I would suggest that if you do "odds and percentages and probabilities" of Sonora vs. Phoenix, you may never return to Phoenix??? Come on down, bring your brain and common sense, wear a smile and enjoy one of the times of your life!  Ron

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Sent you a Pm. I am in Phoenix and will be heading to San Carlos in a few days.

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Figure 3 hour drive from Phx to Nogales, and 5 hours from Nogales to San Carlos..Easy day drive. Start at 6 or 7 am and you will be in San Carlos by 4 to 5 including stops...Pack and load the car the day before...Save on last minute Stress. Be sure to have your Mexico auto insurance..I have used Don Smith Mexico insurance in Nogales for 40+ years but there are others, just my preference. Just have it before you cross into Mexico...
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Was stopped by Mexican cop in Hermosillo. I rapidly changed lane back to avoid to cut him off. We start conversation with shaking hands, chatted about 10 minutes. He asked why I don't have front license plates. I said never got it. Shook hands again and I continued driving. Watch for a cops for speeding right after Hermosillo.

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No one has mentioned it yet but in case you don't know, you must get a tourist permit for each person.  You can do this right at the border but it is easier to stop at K21 and do it there.   You first go to the small immigration building and fill out a form.  You will need a passport or a passport card.   They will ask you how long you will be staying and the options are less that 7 days or 6 months.  If you stay longer than 7 days, you will then go to the bank which in a adjoining building to pay the fee which was 533 pesos a couple of weeks ago.  You then go back to the first counter and they will stamp your passport and send you on your way.   Unless there is a crowd, the whole process takes 10-15 mins.  



The next issue is your car.   If you are going no further than SC, you do not need to get a car permit but be aware that without a permit, you MUST not travel east of Hwy 15 or south of SC.  If you do and get caught, they WILL impound your car.  If you plan to got south of SC or east of the highway, you can get a import permit for your car at the same time you get your tourist card.  Finally, if you do get a car permit, you MUST turn it in at K21 before it expires.  If you don't you will never be allowed to get another one.  The Mexicans are fairly causal about tourist cards but they are very serious about car permits.


One of the earlier posts noted that two of the toll booths are closed but you should be ready with pesos in the event that they are open.  The 1st toll you will come to will be 27 pesos and the second will be 79 pesos.  These do not accept dollars.   The first toll booth on the Mariposa road will be 61 pesos but they so accept dollars.  If you pay there with a $20 bill, the change will be in pesos and will be enough to cover the other two if needed.




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JZ wrote: I've driven it many times at night, especially the leg of Hermosillo to SC.

It's not like driving at night in Baja, where there is no berm and no fence to keep cattle off the roads. I have literally never seen an animal on Hwy 15 in the last 15 years of driving it.


My wife hit a cow about 9 years ago... between Hermosillo and San Carlos... I barely missed one just 4 months ago, north of Imuris. A real heart stopper. There is little time to react at 100 kmh with low beams engaged, (necessary for oncoming traffic). 


Of course, you are a tourist who comes down a couple times a year, so fewer opportunities to encounter something. Whereas we live here, travel for work in and out of country, and therefore make the drive far more often than you would do. So we see much more.


It's a sensible warning. Bad drivers and livestock are a heightened risk in the dark. First timers should drive it during the daylight. To suggest otherwise is offering unwise and unkind advice.

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You are 100% safe, just keep your eyes open and go the speed limit, it could be an 8 hour drive, do not drive at night that is the only precaution you need, fill your car up with gas in Nogales, AZ as gas in Mexico is $4.00 a gallon, also stock up on Pesos, no car permit is needed if you do not go South of San Carlos, buy Mexican car insurance, get your tourist visa at the border or 21 Kilometers down the road, stop often for real food, enjoy the drive.

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Thank everyone!! you guys are fantastic!!

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Although you may already know, in Nogales you can cross  downtown or Mariposa. We come from East Texas, spend the night in Nogales and cross at Mariposa. Never had a problem.

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Lots of good advice I think. For the first trip drive in Mexico during the day, then you can decide. It can be intimidating until you get familiar with the process. Days are short now, get an early start. Figure on 8 hours of driving from the South edge of Phoenix (Warner Rd for example) plus stops and border time. Be patient and enjoy the scenery. Have a great trip. Watch your speed through Hermosillo, 40 kmph is only 25Mph for example. Mex15 is four lane divided hiway but NOT limited access like an Interstate, beware of vehicles entering at unexpected places.

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if you do ever find yourself driving after dark, I've always thought that one option to reduce cow (and horse....not on MX15 but I dodged one in the middle of MX2 once) encounters would be to follow a Tufesa etc bus about 50 yards back....better to let them be the strong arm of Darwin than you......easier to dodge cuts of beef than the whole cow    

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Thank you all so much!!!!!





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odwyerpw wrote: My wife hit a cow about 9 years ago... between Hermosillo and San Carlos... I barely missed one just 4 months ago, north of Imuris. A real heart stopper. There is little time to react at 100 kmh with low beams engaged, (necessary for oncoming traffic). 


Of course, you are a tourist who comes down a couple times a year, so fewer opportunities to encounter something. Whereas we live here, travel for work in and out of country, and therefore make the drive far more often than you would do. So we see much more
It's a sensible warning. Bad drivers and livestock are a heightened risk in the dark. First timers should drive it during the daylight. To suggest otherwise is offering unwise and unkind advice.


I had a house in Vista Marina for 5 years.  Have driven HMO to SC a 100+ times.


Yeah, for a 1st drive of course don't do it at night.  But the general comment about driving from Hermosillo to SC at night not being safe is off.  Again, this isn't MX 1 in Baja.


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