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 Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2018 07:05 pm
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Is this needed for the RV trailer?  It is not needed for the tow vehicle, but  not sure about the trailer?  

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Probably for trailer.

For example, if taking dirt bikes/atvs it is required for sure, even w/o a trailer.  You have to get it for the truck and then add on the other stuff you are bringing.

They use to flag you down at K21, but didn't do it the last couple times I went through.  They did ask me for the TIP once at the check point before Hermosillo after they stopped flagging down at K21.

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I've been back and forth with my car, no TIP...but you are saying you need a TIP for a truck AND trailer, even in the "free zone"? I think I will walk across the border at Naco and ask as I always get pesos there before coming down.

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Yes the RV needs a TIP and so will the prime mover.

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Since it is a true RV, I believe you will get a single TIP. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE 10 year RV-TYPE TIP. Otherwise the RV must leave with your tow vehicle and that will be timed with the expiration of your immigration permit.

The RV type permit is only about 50.00 US for ten years.

You shouldn't need anything for the tow vehicle. As JZ mentioned above, they are USUALLY only written into the type of permit they use for utility trailers towing vehicles like motos or ATVs. But even that has been relaxed in the last few years.

The RV one is mandatory; hassle-free zone or not.

You can order it online and have it sent to your FOREIGN address, not to an address in Mexico.

If you choose not to go the online route, I would recommend bringing your title, as well as your registration, to Mexico. Yeah, I know, traveling with your title is a big no-no, but there have been cases where they insist on it. It's another reason why the online option is more desirable.

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I've gotten about 10 import permits. Takes like 30-45 mins at the boarder IF they aren't crowded.  Can do it online, MUCH easier, but half the time it doesn't seem to work.

Two of the permits were long term ones (10 years) for boats and the rest were 6 month permits (truck + bikes). Never been asked for a title. And they won't, because most ppl don't even have the titles, their banks do.



But they do require original registration docs. I had a color copy of my coast guard certificate of documentation that I didn't even realize was a copy. It was rejected and even a bribe didn't work.
Getting a TIP at the border you will need:

Passport
Copy of passport
Driver's license
Copy of Driver's license
Registration for all vehicles (truck, bikes, atvs, trailer)
Copy of registrations

Tourist visa
Copy of tourist visa

Online you just type in your passport# and the VINs.  No showing docs or making copies, or standing in line.  They send it to you using UPS.  Comes within like a week.

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Btw, Chuck says RV, but he really means trailer.

If you look at the USLD diesel thread he has a truck pulling a 5th wheel. Not an actual RV pulling something else.

I don't know the exact answer, but I'm guessing 90% chance you need a tip in Sonora even if only going to SC. Baja, no, but Sonora yes.

3 years ago I'm almost positive they would flag you down at K21 and ask for a permit. But they probably won't these days. Doesn't necessarily mean you don't need one. So, keep going if you are brave.

Let us know what you find out.

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I will walk over to Mexico next week and find out what is required. But if you get a TIP for the trailer and then bring it back to the US, the TIP is good for 10 years...how do you "close it" out, especially if you sell the trailer?

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Yes the TIP is good for 10 years and you can come and go with it. If you plan to sell, clear the TIP on the way back to the USA at Banjercito. Easiest place to do so is at 21Km south of Nogales. You cannot legally sell the trailer in Mexico.

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chucklesg wrote: I will walk over to Mexico next week and find out what is required. But if you get a TIP for the trailer and then bring it back to the US, the TIP is good for 10 years...how do you "close it" out, especially if you sell the trailer?
You can get a 10 year TIP on an RV for sure, but I don't know if you can get one on a 5th wheel trailer.



Let us know what you find out.

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I respond to this thread expecting some type of attack for my remarks from my cyber bully JZ...


I have taken 5th wheels to SC...Yes there was a 10 year TIP required. But, one time I just drove right through the Check point at K21. They just waved me through. That 5th wheeler is still in SC w/out papers parked on my property for only the past 6 years. 

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When we brought down our 32 foot travel trailer in 2008, we just told them we were going to San Carlos. They didnt require a TIP, at that time. Now, they do, as I understand, even if staying only in the hassle-free zone.

It changed about six years ago, according to my recollection.

Yes, Chuck, please tell us what you find out.

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Your site you refer people to says this:


If you plan to travel no farther than San Carlos/Guaymas/Empalme within the State of Sonora, you no longer need a permit for your vehicle, trailer, etc.  

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I will clarify that statement.  Was meant to refer to small utility/cargo trailers.


Thanx

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I wanted to pass on my experience to get our boat, Miss WTB Boat, a 25 'sea ray to san carlos from Tucson through Mariposa. This ndone about six months ago.Might help.
We did indeed get our TIP.
i first tried banjercito website. Kept getting
booted off. So then went to Mexican consulate in tucson. They said go to km 21.
We stopped at first check point immediately across border at mariposa.
They told us no and waved us on.
At the first toll booth was directed to
Aduana just past there.
At aduana was inspected twice.
Docs needed were:
Trailer registration.
Trailer title.
Truck registration.
Passport.
Drivers license.
Current plates on truck and trailer.
Boat ownership doc from Arizona.
All numbers on docs, boat, and trailer were
Confirmed as corresponding and current to
Numbers on boat, truck, and trailer.
Then told to go to km 21.
At km 21 got visa.
Directed to banjercito for TIP. After
hour and half wait in line,
Again had to produce all aforementioned.
The agent tried to charge me $269.00 for importing truck as well as boat. After disagreeing with him that was dismissed.
Seemed like just a mistake more than intentional.
After tip issued and visa paid for
Sent back to visa window to get stamp on visa.
Cost for TIP was $59 USD.


no further vehicle inspection at km 21.
Just thorough exam of docs.

Last edited on Wed Dec 5th, 2018 04:58 pm by seaspray89

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