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 Posted: Sat Oct 6th, 2018 02:21 am
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Bullshipper ; have a helicopter ready to go


that's what needs to happen, gunships stationed here, hermosillo and obregon!

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Yes, BUT if they scramble one, wouldn't they maybe catch up?? Even if on the causeway to Empalme?

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According to this article, they appear to have a helo at their disposal. It was involved in transporting one of the officers who expired, but it will be used in interdiction in the future.


Another article makes it sound like checkpoints are going to be a regular thing, moving forward.

https://opinionsonora.com/2018/10/04/activan-plan-ope%C2%ADrativo-por-tierra-y-a%C2%ADire-en-guaymas-para-buscar-a-sicarios/

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There are a couple of choppers in Hermosillo to redivac patients to their hospitals or to Tucson, but I have never seen police choppers in town unless the Marines land in force ahead of time to protect the President or politicians after the area is secured.

And I do not think the asassins would try to head to open spaces, or try the the only two highways out of town where they would be easy to spot and detain.

This is probably a Guaymas/Culliacan crew who was contracted to plan the ambush, lure them to the trap and chase them until they were stopped like sitting ducks after they escaped the first barrage and had time to put their vests on.

After the murders, they probably went less than 2-3 miles to their nearest downtown safe house to hide the vehicle and then separate on foot with different clothing before the rest of the police even got the report. Then they consolidated forces to get their numbers up for each pickup and are told where to got to start the search.

The Mexican mafia are well organized, armed, financed, have the element of surprize and have had a lot more asassination practice than our boys, imo.

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Are the military or federal police in San Carlos? Also, someone mentioned the previous corrupt cops fled to U.S. Is that true? How could they get to U.S. unless it was illegally. Just curious.

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no presence at this time. them fleeing NOB just rumor!

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No, it wasn't a rumor. My husband was friends with several of the SC police and talked with them regularly. The six involved police all fled to the US. They all had passports ready.

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the officers involved have been identified by name. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THEY ARE WANTED BY THE MEXICAN AUTHORITIES! if they fled to the USA they could easily be extradited, if they fled to any where else they could be hunted by interpol!!


if they crossed into the USA there would be a record of time and date! just as there is each time we surrender our passports at entry!


i am not doubting what someone said, BUT THEY WHERE ON THE RUN, AND UNLESS WE WHERE WITH THEM, IT IS JUST SPECULATION!

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Yes, there would be a record, but they have had two months to disappear.

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POST #10 has an article from a writer that i would respect his opinion as to their where about !
 robertrarce@gmail.com 

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#25 We just saw a truck full (including in the bed) of military "something" in front of and a truck full behind a San Carlos police vehicle driving down Beltrones.

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suzmax wrote: #25


We have a quote function here.

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Dont know if it's related but the State of Sonora Attorney General and the Director of Public Safety both resigned their posts in the last 24 hours for "personal reasons".


Edit: actually it was in the last 72 hours. Both stories appeared in the Oct 5 online edition of Opinion Sonora. 


Here is one:




https://opinionsonora.com/2018/10/05/presenta-rodolfo-montes-de-oca-renuncia-a-la-fiscalia-general-de-justicia-de-sonora/

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Another day, another resignation involving security or judicial positions in Sonora. This time it's the Municipal police force in Guaymas.  The General Commissioner of the Municipal Police and Police Headquarters has resigned. Sounds like this is a political position and he is not an actual member of the police force. But I am relying on a translation.  


 He is being replaced by a person who is a Secretariat-Navy of Mexico. So, the Guaymas police force will apparently have a person from the military, whether civilian or uniformed, in charge of the police force. 


https://opinionsonora.com/2018/10/08/renuncia-daniel-morales-pardini-a-la-jefatura-de-la-policia-municipal/

 BTW, it appears that Opinion Sonora is using some type of software that doesnt allow for cutting and pasting text. 


 There is also an article on OpS about Governor Pavlovich requesting increased federal and/or military help to combat the situation in Guaymas, Obregon, Hermosillo and Yecora. She requested this via a letter to President Pena Nieto. Basically, the letter says that Sonora is doing all it can do to combat the lawlessness but they need federal help and coordination of all three levels of government. 


https://opinionsonora.com/2018/10/08/pide-gobernadora-a-presidente-pena-nieto-reforzar-apoyo-para-seguridad-en-sonora/

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We are planning to drive down from Tucson next week...4 adults and 2 kids. This will be our 4th trip; the last being January 2017. Should we rethink our travel plan?

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pattib wrote: We are planning to drive down from Tucson next week...4 adults and 2 kids. This will be our 4th trip; the last being January 2017. Should we rethink our travel plan?

As long as you're not messing with cartel or mafia operations you should be OK.  I just got back yesterday and the only real difference I noticed was less police running around SC in the 5 days I was there.  No issues beyond that.

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pattib wrote: We are planning to drive down from Tucson next week...4 adults and 2 kids. This will be our 4th trip; the last being January 2017. Should we rethink our travel plan?

We are driving down in early November. This isnt changing our travel plans. 


These changes might actually improve the security situation down there. Clearly, there were some corrupt cops in the Guaymas police force. That really isnt news.

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Come on down weather and people are fine. Wife and I go in and out about 15 times a year for the last 10. No troubles or problems.

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Great news!  Now if we could just get water to the caricol;)

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There could be LOTS of water around, though maybe not in the pipes...........

You should monitor this board with regards to the effects of Hurricane/TS Sergio. Sometimes washouts can occur between the border and San Carlos. Sergio could dump a lot of rain beginning this Friday and maybe lasting through Sunday, if you include the route north of San Carlos. As usual, the drive is probably the most dangerous part of visiting San Carlos. Drive extra defensively, as the locals dont have to take any kind of driving test to get a license.

What route are you taking? When do you leave?

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