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 Posted: Fri Nov 17th, 2017 05:27 pm
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Clarify for me and others-is the 83.5M in delinquent taxes for Guaymas in its totality, or is that just for San Carlos? Can't read the fine print on the chart.
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bart, the 83.5m pesos is what some san carlos property owners owe guaymas for the last 5 years!

P.S. i have no doubt that guaymas proper and the surrounding communities of the municipality of guaymas have their individual tax deficits!
the 83.5m pesos addresses san carlos!

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So SC properties owe US$4.5 mil in 5 years of back taxes. If you take US$250 as average annual taxes, you get 18,000 properties in 5 years arrears. How many  properties are in SC?

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nice guy, your math is incorrect, there is to much variation for your average!!

it was disclosed at the meeting that san carlos has an approximate population of 5,000.


P.S. see my post #68

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i am not sure how the properties are taxed here!
i know in arizona there is a variety of property taxes; residential, vacant land, commercial, agricultural, ect.
there are variations of those mentioned; for instance a residence is taxed different if it is a primary residence than if it is a rental!
developers here should have a tax consideration for their long term investment!
i owned a ranch in AZ. that i had to run a certain amount of cattle to maintain my agricultural tax status or forfeit that status to a higher commercial/residential rate! !
complicated!!!

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That is fabulous news, Frankie!  I was also at the meeting and it was amazing.  If you wanted any proof, Frankie just mentioned it. 

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How about posting a list (or making it available) of all San Carlos properties behind in their taxes? This should be public information and it would take about 5 key strokes. I'd like to know who is not paying - where are the deadbeats?

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I thought Gym bankrupt and bank accts seized. So they owe 8 mil pesos - but have no money to pay?

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Bart,

To clarify the chart. There are three columns of numbers specific to certain geographic areas in San Carlos. Not all areas in San Carlos are presented.

The first column shows amounts owed in property taxes that are more than 5 years delinquent. This amounts to 9,126,179 pesos

The second column shows delinquent amounts owed from these same areas that are between 1 and 5 years past due. This includes penalties and interest. The total amount shown is 83,455,258

The third column shows these same past due amounts without penalties and interest. Past due from 1 to 5 years. 64,149,794 pesos.

Any way you look at it, that's a lot of money that hasn't been paid for taxes.

These amounts are related to all kinds of property. Some vacant lots, some for houses that are currently being lived in, some for developments that are being developed. And the assessed value of these properties is varied.

What is needed is a community focus to figure out how to get these amount current and more thoughts on how to prevent this type of thing from getting out of hand in years to come. Keep in mind, if this problem was as easy to fix as some would think, it would have been solved already.

North Of The Border solutions don't always work the same in Mexico.

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there are 4 columns.

column 1 colonia, 

column 2 REZAGO with totals

column 3 total GENERAL

column 4 total PROMOCION

83,455,258.38 total with penalties

64,149,794.53 discount promotion 

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Siince the chart is to small to read could someone put up the figure for each area or is there a way to enlarge the chart.?

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I would venture to say, that the more gringo the sector, the more taxes paid. I think us gringo visitors are more inclined to pay taxes, due to what we might consider as adverse consequences to not paying. Where is Villahermosa on that chart?

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I would like to see it as well. These two (2) gringos have paid our taxes each and every year of property ownership!! 

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Thanx for the explanation.
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i don't believe it would  be productive to instigate a US versus THEM debate!
 it is my understanding that attempts will be made to form liaisons for each "colonia" subdivision/sector, these representatives will make attempts to encourage tax payments!
this would be a more passionate approach, considering the drastic legal approach of seizure!!! which could cause personal disruption and not accomplish the goal of filling the treasuries coffers!
it is extremely delicate and complicated issue and any productive suggestions are welcome!!!

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Frankie, who gets invited to these meetings? And how do you participate? I haven’t seen anything ”official” posted or a community outreach...

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all are welcome to join on the "FACEBOOK" page "Comisaria San Carlos". also "Comisaria municipal San Carlos".
news and general information will be published daily.

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Frankie, when referring to gringo visitors, it was a possible statistical observation, predicated on our desire to remain in good stead with our "trust contracts" and our rendering unto Ceasar. Nothing to do with US vs THEM.

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For those like me who do not own property in Mexico, can someone explain the process for billing and collecting property taxes? If you have a trust, are the taxes paid thru the trust holder or direct to the taxing authority?

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i have a personal trust and properties owned by my empressa. there are no notices sent out for taxes. they are expected to be paid after the first of january . those who pay in a allotted time period are given a discount, for current and delinquent taxes!
there is a tax collecting office in the same plaza as where you pay your water bill, here in san carlos.
p.s. it is best to bring your tax code number or a previously paid receipt for greater efficiency!

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