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 Posted: Fri Sep 22nd, 2017 01:22 am
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Comes now "foot in the mouth" Richard quoting "johnmoore":

johnmoore wrote: I live on the Villahermosa loop, you come pay for my road, then, and only then will I give to the LDM road.

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i have been involved with urban planning projects!
fast forwarding and contemplating our needs as a community as a whole.
the most needed projects need be contemplated,(say 3)  cost estimates are obtained with a total cost!
these estimates are presented to a local, state or federal government or all!
the carrot on the stick is san carlos (us) offers to pay a percentage of the cost 30,40,50,60%.
the governments would find this appealing as they are obligated to do the work with their own funding! 
what is needed with these types of negotiations are the "mover shakers of the community"! 

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Perhaps when contributions are made, the contributor could could prioritize 1-5. Villa Hermosa, Calle O, Topes, LDM, Street lights, other. That way Señor Pinto will have an idea of the majorities preferences.

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Desperation, Richard, taking one sentence out of context. In context you would have read, we have not solicited funds from outside our sector, and that my real insistence is that "this fix up SC committee" proves itself, before doing LDM.

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Now really "johnmoore", I agree that the VH loop was one of those torn up with the mid '90's sewer installation and should be returned to original by the City. But we all know, "it ain't gonna happen", so we hafta take the bull by the horns and "git 'er done" ourselves. Once we have a reputable contractor working for us on one of the other projects, it should be easy to get a bid on one of the others like say VH loop or Manglares. And who knows, maybe shame the Guaymas government into revenue sharing, or better yet, the State. Meanwhile everyone, mull over Frankie's numbers, they're good!

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there are optimists
there are pessimists
some of us are realists
what is needed is funding for 3 road improvement projects as i stated in an earlier post, always try to obtain for several because the donors will donate once and tire and not donate again!
lets just say an unrealistic 3 miles "very short distance"  5 or more miles is more likely!
 3 miles will cost $435,000. usd!!
i see it as an unrealistic unobtainable goal!! even if san carlos where able to obtain 50% $217,500. usd and the rest government funding!i don't even see 50% $217,500. as obtainable goal!!]
no matter how many times you say "get r done"
that is being a realist!!


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it is obvious why this program will never happen the posters here prefer bickering pointing fingers and complaining to rolling up their sleeves and pitching in very sad to watch

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I think it'll get done Visitor, but yes, we have those that will argue and bicker 'till the cows come home. But let'em as long as they contribute...

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You are correct.There is Richard that thinks he is a voice of the community because he has been here a long time. He is a gadfly and yenta that stirs the pot and is basically 'the problem and not the solution'.Because you have been here and have hundreds of posts, WHO CARES?!You are the past and the problem. You talk a good game but never have you stepped up and put your butt on the line. That has always been for others to do while you snipe at what others do.Ok you are old and have been here for years. SO WHAT. What have you done to correct ANY problem except to put it on others to do, then complain about what they do.You do not have the pulse of the community, you do not have any influence. If you did why don't you use it and show what you have done? Why, because you are just someone that thinks time should give you a 'pat on the back' because of who you THINK you are.Time to retire and give the reigns to people will try do do things instead of your ilk that wants others to do it for them.Next time you post on this site and the other, (almost 1600 times, WHY so many) just enjoy your time, have a drink and enjoy, instead of being a pain in the rear.

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johnny d, touche!!!

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does anyone want to discuss a realistic project like the topes?????

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Frankie, as I told you before, I consider myself a pragmatist.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q=pragmatist&oq=pragmatist&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i10k1j0j0i20i264k1j0i10k1.3671.10799.0.12311.14.12.1.0.0.0.177.1426.0j10.11.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..2.12.1599.6..35i39k1j0i131k1.168.lOeZ2xN5BDc

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a pragmatist would have crunched the numbers!!!

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I am OK with all of the choices, but it seems logical to use the Pesos for the smaller issues, then as confidence builds...move to the more high cost stuff... what can you do with 10,000.00 pesos this month... plus individual contributions??? Topes, Lighting of the highway, water and sewer come under STATE AND fED.. lets move on Ruben's proposal he's offered 10K to kick it off... im in

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Limey wrote: I am OK with all of the choices, but it seems logical to use the Pesos for the smaller issues, Topes, lets move on Ruben's proposal he's offered 10K to kick it off... im in
 affordable , obtainable , realistic!!

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I like post #75, as a follow up, the goals need to be defined, what are the projects, and in what order will they be addressed? What are the costs of each project? How does one give financial assistance to each project? In my opinion, one project at a time, and one period of giving to said project. In other words, if you start with the LDM road, those that want to give to that project can. Then maybe the second project is topes, give, or not. Each project should be individually funded, and funds, other than excess should only be used for the stated project.

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I thought the restaurants themselves were paying for the topes in front of Charlie´s Rock and Los Arbolitos. Have they constructed them yet?

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I nominate Richard Baca and Frankie to head the committee.  You are both friends with the Comisario, you both understand construction, you are both bilingual.  Thank you. 

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#78, Here's your "Second" on that nomination.

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