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Ruben, would you please make the same plea here on the San Carlos Forum, as you are making on Viva.  I think you might find some help. 

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Asked a friend to copy and email Rubens post on Viva. It is as follows:

So far, my budget continues at 00.00 pesos
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Last monday i had a meeting with guaymas major regarding the construction and equipment in exchange for city taxes.
He rejected everything with the excuse that if he do any good work for S.C., the poor sectors of guaymas will riot.

So we are alone, will continue alone.

Solutions, at your consideration.

Start a S.C. relieff committe to receive money from donation and events to fund it.

First project can be the pavement of calle H from circle K all the way to loma del mar trailer park. After we complete that project, we can continue to pave the road from the ranchitos schools, or anything we decide to fix.

First, we need a couple of residents to handle the money and control the expenses.

Why two??? less problems, and is more easy to get an agreement.

We can ask for proposals to do the paving as a sealed bid closed envelope to be opened in front of anybody who wants to be involved.

The bidding winner must supply a bond before receiving any down payment.etc. etc.etc.

Specification of the job to be done, like length, width, thickness will be done from somebody that knows what is required.
Once we start with #1, i will ask the merchants to donate for the project...because we all want to fix SAN CARLOS.......

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ruben is my good friend!! i am very familiar with his speech, writing and mannerism!! 
 i am also familiar with GG's pen!! this stinks of GG, probably because he wrote it!
i ask any of you who know ruben well if this sounds like he wrote it?

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If the mayor said that, the governor should be informed. in.

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Frankie, Me thinks you could be correct on this one. Does sound a bit like the gadfly.

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First project can be the pavement of calle H from circle K all the way to loma del mar trailer park. After we complete that project, we can continue to pave the road from the ranchitos schools, or anything we decide to fix.



this is a special interest comment!! "GG"

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Comisario Ruben Pinto posted the information and the plea on the Viva Board. JohnMoore then asked that it be cut and pasted here. Cut and pasted so that it would be transcribed verbatim, with no editorial comment. Comisario Pinto is the one that suggested Calle H as one of the projects. He is open to suggestion and anyone can go see him be it at Charly's Rock or the Comisaría.

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Richard, In post #1 I asked Ruben to make his plea here. He has yet to do that. His/gg's note was posted, but Ruben has yet to put his personal touch to it. As long as Ruben only posts on Viva, you know where the steering comes from. Why is it always the LDM freaking road? Yeah that was a huge success at the hands of gg last time. Who wants to get involved in that sham again?

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If this was truly the response from Guaymas Mayor, then it should be brought to the attention of the Governor of Sonora, and other public offices that are involved in the distribution of tax dollars. If the budget is .00, then there is a serious lack of legality in all of this. If Ruben accepts this from the mayor of Guaymas, then I am shocked. Someone needs to stand up for San Carlos, in the position of Comisario. Otherwise, why bother having one? How would the people of Guaymas even know where the money is going? And how many of them pay their taxes?

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johnmoore wrote: Why is it always the LDM freaking road? Yeah that was a huge success at the hands of gg last time. Who wants to get involved in that sham again?
richard, for an intelligent man you make a lot of ignorant assumptions "verbatim"! 
ruben, may have very well dictated something to GG, but GG and his special interest ran with it from there!! it is obvious in the sentence and verbiage structure!

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I don´t think the fact the Comisario has zero budget means zero tax dollars are spent in San Carlos. It just means he doesn´t control it.

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mary, yours is an intelligent observation! money is being spent here!

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Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

I am shocked that GG would edit Ruben's words in order to stir up sh#t. I am with you johnmoore, if GG is involved, I am out. He never acknowledged his part in the last road swindle.

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remember the scene in "the wizard of oz" when the man behind the curtain is exposed?? 

GG still insists that viva is not his forum, that is GG's MO, the man behind the curtain!!

"the great and powerful OZ"

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Kim and MaryT, FYI, the coin of the realm here is Mexican pesos NOT dollars as you both mistakenly state.

RichD, did GG edit Ruben's words? I cut and pasted Comisario Pinto's post. They are his words and his words only. The way I read it, he is unable to get any infrastructure funds out of the Guaymas treasury so, since we need some repairs and improvements he is asking for resident contributions. It was Comisario Pinto that mentioned the LDM road as an example, and I think it's a good one but there are others. The water and sewer issues though are not within the purview of the Guaymas budget. So please San Carlos, let's stay focused and support the BEST Comisario we have EVER had.

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Richard Baca wrote: Kim and MaryT, FYI, the coin of the realm here is Mexican pesos NOT dollars as you both mistakenly state.

RichD, did GG edit Ruben's words? I cut and pasted Comisario Pinto's post. They are his words and his words only. 

richard, why do you always feel the need to trump someone??? we all knew quite well what kim and mary where referring to, by the way mexico is not a REALM it is a republic!!!  !!
unless you where there when the words from the post where posted, it is only another ignorant assumption on your behalf!

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Months ago the comisario wanted donations from extranjeros to fix CEA infrastructure. Now he is soliciting extranjero donations to fix 'The Road'.

When I recall 'The Road', I just hum 'The Rose' written by Amanda McBroom and sung by Bette Midler. In the end, I sing "In the spring becomes the Road"... and I feel allot better.

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i truly believe ruben pinto wants the best for san carlos!! why wouldn't he as he has a lot vested here!!but his hands are tied and he has expressed that! he is as frustrated as the rest of us!!
what i see is GG taking advantage of a bad situation for his own personal interests! i know ruben and his vernacular, ruben's words are being ghost written by GG!!! 

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FYI Frankie, Kim and MaryT:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coin%20of%20the%20realm

You see Frankie, Kim & MaryT, the phrase "coin of the realm" refers to the legal tender currency of a country.

If I were a Mexican citizen I would consider it insulting to read where some ignoramus referred to Guaymas tax revenue as "our tax dollars". Yes of course we know what was meant, but IMO it should be properly stated, especially from an American that has taken Mexican citizenship.

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