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 Posted: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 05:26 pm
   
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I didnt see the article mention another bad aspect of all this fuel theft. The fuel is often mixed with other cheaper chemicals to increase profit on the black market. Some of these chemicals are bad for engines.


Even the stuff directly from Pemex trucks is susceptible to this. Pemex has caught their delivery drivers offloading a portion of their tanks and replacing it with these chemicals. They got paid by black marketers to do this.


I guess there are probably "gas gangs" now. The article alludes to organized crime being involved.


What's next? "Beer gangs" who deliver tainted beer in kegs to our bars? God forbid!!!

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 Posted: Sun Aug 27th, 2017 07:30 pm
   
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Stealing gas used to be small time but the cartels got into it. It sounds to bizarre to believe. They seem to be taking advantage of their ability to corrupt and control to branch out from drugs to almost anything illegal.

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/two-cartels-linked-to-pipeline-thefts/

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 12:59 am
   
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4pm came and went - guess they are "undercover". !

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 02:03 am
   
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Maybe manaƱa?

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 04:12 am
   
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i have seen state trucks all over today, patrolling!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 04:17 am
   
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What about the troops, Sargent Frankie? Any sign of them?

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 03:28 pm
   
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Problem   we got no problem....notice the guy selling stolen gas is right across from a Police Bldg.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 03:45 pm
   
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limey, where was this photo taken? what evidence do you have that the gas was stolen?
many communities are far from gas stations and individuals provide this type of service!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 03:46 pm
   
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I believe it's taken from one of the articles on fuel theft in the posts above.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 03:52 pm
   
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i guide deer hunts near ortiz, we have to travel to la travasda to purchase fuel for the hunts. that for me is an 1 1/2 hour trip!! there is an individual who sells gas in ortiz at a higher price than the stations. i am not sure where he purchases his fuel!

PEMEX, has their own paramilitary units, which is designed to combat theft. they look as well equipped as any SWAT unit in the USA!!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 03:59 pm
   
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I, too, have bought gas from privateers in Baja, in days gone by. Especially around the junction of Hwy 1 and Bahia de Los Angeles. But that was just guys buying from a conventional station and selling for a profit at a remote location. I would see them filling up in Villa Jesus Maria, at times. That's probably what the guy is doing on your Ortiz trips.


I dont know that there are any gas pipelines this far north in Sonora or Sinaloa. That's the main source of fuel thefts. That, and truck hijacking. Much of the fuel in northern Mexico comes from the US by truck. I think we are too far south for this, based on the fact that we still get LSD diesel, instead of ULSD.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 04:40 pm
   
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hook , thank you!! lots of speculation without evidence!!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 05:25 pm
   
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Ok, now that we've flipped this thread to general crime, is there any updates on the shootings?

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 08:07 pm
   
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The deceased have been rounded up and taken into custody. But, they aren't talking. 

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 08:32 pm
   
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frankiej wrote: hook , thank you!! lots of speculation without evidence!!
I gave evidence for the privateers that I have used. I saw the same guys I bought fuel from buying it legally at a Pemex.
Besides, I was agreeing with you that your guy could have been legal, too.
The photo is the photo. Read the article. Draw your own conclusions. It is not a local photo.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 09:07 pm
   
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hook , you burro, i was complementing you!! it was the others who had no evidence and where speculating!!

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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 09:09 pm
   
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This burro's misunderstanding.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 05:08 am
   
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Ok this has now reached no longer relevant to the original topic so this one is done.

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