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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 05:32 am
   
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HEY ALL YOU FEAR MONGERS! STOP and think for a second or two... Were any innocent bystanders hurt in all of this? NO, and not likely that there would be in a targeted hit! For cryin out loud(!), if you're not involved in the illicit drug trade, just chill out!! Ain't nuthin gonna happen to your silly worried arse!!

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 01:30 pm
   
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All is so true, I'm just going to tough it out here in paradise.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 02:10 pm
   
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Jimmy wrote;

I think that YOU should use whatever coping rationalization method that makes you feel safe and secure and stop trying to convince others that their fears are not justified. Just let others make up their own minds about what is an acceptable risk to them and their loved ones.


It 's a dangerous world to live in now days.
my post #35 and jimmy's post # 37 are 2 very different and both valid opinions!

the video shows 3 vehicles of armed battling factions! one the armed victims in the grey van and one the assassins in the white car, one a dark vehicle shows 3 armed individuals.
if you watch carefully you'll see the the puff of dust when the white vehicle is leaving this is a round hitting the asphalt, coming from the dark car, it also appears at least several other rounds where shot from the dark car!

collateral damage IS a real possibility!!! that is why i wrote post #31 !!!!!

"JIMMY IS CORRECT" 
IT IS A DANGEROUS WORLD TO LIVE IN NOW DAYS!!!


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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 05:18 pm
   
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¨HEY ALL YOU FEAR MONGERS! STOP and think for a second or two... Were any innocent bystanders hurt in all of this? NO, and not likely that there would be in a targeted hit! For cryin out loud(!), if you're not involved in the illicit drug trade, just chill out!! Ain't nuthin gonna happen to your silly worried arse!!¨  Richard Baca post 41.

Let´s not be stupid. The fact that innocent bystanders were not killed or injured in this incident when there was a high speed chase with bullets flying is merely good luck. I love San Carlos and will be back in a couple of months but this particular incident was significantly more serious than we have seen in the past. Unfortunately, I saw no more than cursory coverage in the local press so who knows what is really going on.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 05:48 pm
   
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mary, you are correct!!! pure luck there was no collateral injuries!

the HIT on the grey van appears targeted, as richard comments, they probably used a pistol!!

but i count at least 5 indiscriminate shots from long guns fired from the dark vehicle!
these long gun rounds have a trajectory of over a mile!!!!!!


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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 06:10 pm
   
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We all agree, a horrible event. I believe the authorities are as curious as we all are, to what really transpired. In the video, the second car, going eastbound, with long guns, who were they? Why did the van stop where it did and allow the shooters to get them like fish in a barrel? How did the van end up where it did much further west? If they do not know, I am sure the authorities want to know....

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 07:12 pm
   
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Hook, I don't doubt your numbers but wonder where you got the. I'd like to use the source as a reference if it's reputable.
The average of about 75 Americans being kidnapped each year in Mexico, continues. Approximately 100 Americans are murdered in Mexico each year. Those numbers are actually pretty low, when you consider the number of American tourists and ex-pats who are in Mexico each year. 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 07:13 pm
   
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MARIGOT @ No. 38 REALLY gets it! RIGHT ON MARIGOT!

johnmoore, the sequence of events according to the employees at the OXXO is as follows: A pick-up truck stopped and blocked the van, (both headed East, not West); then a car pulled up beside the van and a perp got out and openned fire (probably with a pistol) at the driver and one in the passenger seat; then openned the van's slider and shot the one in the back seat. As they pulled away we see in the video, a black car stop on the West bound frontage and an obviously inexperienced shooter emerges with a semi-automatic rifle, and because he didn't have it "safed", he accidentally let a round go into the pavement (that's the puff of dust we see on the road), and then shoots a couple of semi-auto rounds at the fleeing car.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 07:31 pm
   
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Richard Baca wrote:As they pulled away we see in the video, a black car stop on the West bound frontage and an obviously inexperienced shooter emerges with a semi-automatic rifle, and because he didn't have it "safed", he accidentally let a round go into the pavement (that's the puff of dust we see on the road), and then shoots a couple of semi-auto rounds at the fleeing car.


not exactly, the driver of the dark car, fires while still in the car!! you can clearly see the muzzle blast "door closed" prior to  exiting the car and shouldering the weapon! there where 2 other shooters in the dark car, one on the passenger side and one in the back seat. it appears they both fired!!!
these are the indiscriminate rounds that where fired!

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 07:37 pm
   
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This is interesting, I just came back from getting my scuba tanks refilled at El Mar, and I was passing Blackies on the frontage road, seven state police vehicles came down Beltrones--six pickup trucks and a sedan. I thought they were going to the police station, but the turned right and up the hill to the Bahia.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 07:39 pm
   
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pony, just now?

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 08:01 pm
   
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About 30 minutes ago.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 08:12 pm
   
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stanbnv wrote: Hook, I don't doubt your numbers but wonder where you got the. I'd like to use the source as a reference if it's reputable.
The average of about 75 Americans being kidnapped each year in Mexico, continues. Approximately 100 Americans are murdered in Mexico each year. Those numbers are actually pretty low, when you consider the number of American tourists and ex-pats who are in Mexico each year. 

Here is the article I used. It was on Fox News web site, but the murder and kidnapping figures are from the US State Department. Fox News ran this at the time the US State Dept issued it's last warning before the most recent one of a few days ago. It cover the years 2013-15, which was actually a comparative lull in violent crime in Mexico, compared to 2009-2012 and 2016-2017. So, I believe one can extrapolate that the murder/kidnapping figures from that lull have remained the same OR PROBABLY INCREASED.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/01/20/us-renews-travel-warning-to-mexico-as-killings-americans-climb.html

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 08:35 pm
   
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I think Sancarlos has no Problems with the violence going on. Sancarlos is protectet by al the Indiana Jones living there.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 09:02 pm
   
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A FACT in all this is that has escaped many of us is that apparently ALL of the victims as well as the perps WERE NOT, and are ARE NOT San Carlos Residents. It seems that these events were executed by visitors that came here to do their dirty work! I may be wrong, but none lived here and are not likely to be back anytime soon. Someone posted that, "they live among us". That may in fact be true, but these recent incidents appear to be have been executed by outsiders (to Carlos).

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 09:05 pm
   
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i concur with richard, these guys where outsiders!

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 09:15 pm
   
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The dead ones won't be back anytime soon!

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I think you have to consider that a great majority of 'Americans' killed in Mexico (100/yr), might be just citizens by documentation , involved with bad things, in the cartels, and are not tourists or 'American residents'. Just bad businessmen, or maybe some family affairs.
It seems that this is the time. Hey, it's hot, buggy, and humid anyhow. You should be somewhere cooler for a few more weeks! Maybe it's a prep for the harvest season, the bad guys are on vacation ( or think they are safe on vacation), or a summer of bad drug use just has the hit men at a boiling point this far into the summer. You shouldn't be outside anyhow right now. Your chances of dying to the elements and from skin cancer should be your main concerns.
If I have to fish any longer for juvenile dorado I'm going to put panties on and join Miss Jenner. Heard a good report from 30 out that might loosen my sack. I know I don't have to watch out for bullets there. 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 09:36 pm
   
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good one brian!

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 Posted: Sat Aug 26th, 2017 09:48 pm
   
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I think most of us are too poor and a burden to kidnap anyhow. 

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