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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 03:25 am
   
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http://elportaldelanoticia.mx/noticias/local/2126-matan-a-dos-hombres-en-san-carlos

Two dead, one wounded in the vicinity of Rescate San Carlos. This happened a couple of hours ago, (it's now 8:25 PM).

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 04:04 am
   
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https://opinionsonora.com/2017/08/24/los-interceptan-les-abren-las-puertas-y-les-disparan/

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 05:12 am
   
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Of the afternoon of this Thursday in San Carlos, Nuevo Guaymas, on The scenic boulevard 'Manlio Fabio Beltrones Rivera', where two People were shot, leaving one more injured, in whose Scene of the personal crime of the Attorney General's Office Finds the corresponding proceedings. The vehicle in which they traveled is a Toyota, van type, gray color, itself That in front of the Oxxo store of the sector Crestón, was intercepted by a Pick-up truck, which closed the way. The hit men got out of their car, went to the Toyota, the line 'Sienna', in gray, opened the driver's door and the door Sliding, of the same left side and began to shoot to its occupants. Two of them were dead inside, while the wounded was Aided by rescue personnel San Carlos, who, on board one of the His ambulances took him to the Guadalupe Pavilion, where he was Hospitalized, hospital facilities that are heavily guarded By no less than 30 members of different police corporations. At the moment the identity of the two people has not been revealed Deceased, nor that of the injured. (Later more information)[code]

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 06:38 am
   
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the shooting started at solimar, and ended in front of the OXXO. i was there after the fact with the comisario, we where at the drug store.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 07:20 am
   
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It was bound to happen again. There are just too many fringe narcos that vacation and party here. And murders are once again on the rise in Mexico, after a downturn from the high water mark in 2011.

Still, I think that is only 6-7 in the 9 years I have been in San Carlos. I'm counting the Tufesa bus driver (not actually in San Carlos proper), the guy at MSC, the guy who was undercover for some police agency, the guy by the OXXO on the LDM road, the guy at Semana Santa about 5 years ago, the guy out at Bahia Esmeralda and the running gun battle on Beltrones between the Pilar/Delfin turnoff and the freeway. I think one or two were killed in that one. I think that last one was the one where a father came after some guy who had diddled his daughter or something.

Not counting the bodies that were dumped out by Nacapule. I think that was 2-3.

Pretty low rate for a busy town like San Carlos, really. Not exactly Chicago;  which, BTW, might not make the top ten Mexican towns for murders, per capita. 

Of the 50 world cities with a population of at least 300,000, Chicago doesnt make the list for per capita murders. Of the 50, an astounding 42 are in Latin America. Mexico has 8 cities. The US has four; St Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit. Still no Chicago. 

This is for cities that are in countries that are not considered "at war".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 07:55 am
   
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Two more people were murdered in the Ranchitos at essentially the same time. So that is 4 dead in one night.

So when is our new Comissario gonna get us some security cameras on the main road? Right after he fixes the water problema!! LOL

Dozens have disappeared in Guaymas this summer, it was only a matter of time before we had another shoot out here.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 01:28 pm
   
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camera's would not have changed last nights tragic events!

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 01:33 pm
   
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frankiej wrote: camera's would not have changed last nights tragic events!
Very true. It takes a police force that is willing to DO something with what a camera captures.

Anything more on the murders in the Ranchitos, Vince? 

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 01:37 pm
   
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Any more on either of the murders, the who and the why's? Are the victims locals? Are the shooters local? Many questions..

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 01:39 pm
   
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There is a follow up article on Opinionsonora.com, that appears to identify two of the victims on Beltrones. Also, more info about the vehicle. Not the getaway one, of course.


https://opinionsonora.com/2017/08/25/vivia-en-san-jose-de-guaymas-uno-de-los-ejecutados-esta-tarde/

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 01:48 pm
   
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Anyone know why the Opinion articles cannot be copied, so to translate. My Spanish is not that good..any help??

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 02:05 pm
   
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I cant copy it either. But I use Chrome as a browser and it automatically translates the article.


One of the dead is from San Jose de Guaymas. The injured person is from Hermosillo. The vehicle of the victims was reported stolen in June from HMO and was using plates from a different vehicle that was reported stolen in April. State police is speculating that this could be an "adjustment of accounts" between narco gangs, or so the translation goes.


That's pretty much the gist of the most recent article.


The murder in the Ranchitos appears to be VERY close to my house. Possibly the house that used to be owned by Jack Biffle or the two next to it, going towards the sea. Those are the only ones I can recall that are occupied. Of course, an unoccupied structure might be more preferred by kidnappers. Cut and paste translation.


San Carlos.- At this time, the judicial authorities continue carrying out the corresponding procedures on the finding of two more bodies in a house of the sector 'Ranchitos' of San Carlos, people who were executed to shots by a group of hired assassins.
This happened in the street 'A' between the Second and Third avenues, of the already mentioned sector, in this tourist police station of the municipality of Guaymas.
The bodies were found on the porch of the house, with several bullet wounds.
In the exterior of the house is a ton truck with the 'intermittent' lights on.
Staff of the Ministerial Investigation Agency Crimimal (AMIC), PESP, Municipal Police and military, arrived at the place since midnight, when they received the complaint about these executions, and entered the house after a search warrant granted by a Judge.
One woman, female, arrived before the Public Ministry Agency to report that an armed command had 'lifted' her and had taken her to that address, where she was kept deprived of her liberty.
He said that at one point several individuals wearing military attire arrived at the house, who began firing those in custody at the security house, immediately after escaping, making the woman escape from the place where he was being held.
So far the identity of the two executed is unknown, with four people deprived of life in less than 12 hours in this tourist center.
A unit of the funeral service has arrived to this house that will be in charge of the transfer of the bodies to the Forensic Service for the corresponding autopsies of law.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 02:43 pm
   
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Jorge Alberto N, 40 yrs of Guaymans with previous drug and gun convictions Oscar Tadeo N 27 yrs, previous assault charges, were named as victims in the Sienna

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 02:46 pm
   
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Hey, Bullshipper, why do they just give an N for one of the surnames?

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 03:13 pm
   
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Found this consolidating link to online newspapers in Mexico.

http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/mexico.htm

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 03:51 pm
   
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post #12 hook, i heard on the radio the same report, it is also written the same in the press!
am understanding that this may have been a police or military vigilante squad?

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 04:10 pm
   
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Yeah, that involvement of persons with paramilitary uniforms is very disconcerting. If it was a legit military operation that freed even one hostage, I would think there would have been a press conference about it.


The translation is very convoluted.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 04:37 pm
   
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I am glad that they freed the kidnapped woman. I don't care if it was done by a military "vigilante" squad of if bad guys were cleaning other bad guys. Lots of rumors will be thrown around, yes even in the press. We may not ever find out. It may be in our best interests not to have a press conference if it was a military operation. Maybe they will think twice before kidnapping someone else if they don't tell everyone their tactics or who contacted them.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 04:50 pm
   
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police/military vigilante squad is how the zetas where formed!
this is a democracy! 

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 Posted: Fri Aug 25th, 2017 04:53 pm
   
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In all the noise about this, one has to bear in mind that this is all revenge among themselves; among drug dealers and maybe up to the cartel level. The murders on the Boulevard look like a fight among drug dealers and the one in the Ranchitos appears more coordinated with "uniformed" men in a 1 ton truck. Nevertheless, other than the scare, no foreigners were in any way singled out. But just wait now; our Illustrious Consulate in Hermosillo will put out an alert to Americans Re: Violence in San Carlos! Watch out!! Unfortunately, that's just the way it is. In any event, as long as anyone is not involved, I don't thing there's anything to worry about.

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