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Buenos dias Senores, el movimiento ha empezado, tal vez ustedes pueden ayudar nos conseguir firmas para esa documento de gente que viven en su colonia?
Abajo es un link al senor Juan Carlos quien explica todo el tiempo, mas que dos anos, que hemos gastado para llegar aqui.
Gracias por cual quier ayuda en este asunto.
Muchos saludosTodos por un San Carlos Próspero, Unete!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLBzttzJo7c
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Good morning, gentlemen, the movement has started, maybe you can help us get signatures for that document from people living in your colony?
Below is a link to Mr. Juan Carlos who explains all the time, more than two years, we have spent to get here.
Thank you for any help in this matter.
Many greetingsTodos por un San Carlos Próspero, Unete!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLBzttzJo7c

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Interesting. Basically the initial steps to pursue designating San Carlos as the 73rd independent municipality of Sonora. It's a public notice that the citizens in support of this movement wish to secede from the municipality of Guaymas.

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Yes San Carlos full fills all the requirements needed to be in''s own municipio. The local residents, Mexicans that is, need to exercise their constitutional rights under article 39. It's the only way forward. Juan Carlos explains quite well in the video what he has done over the last two years and how he has legally documented how city officials have violated the rights of San Carlos residents.

Juan Carlos also explains nicely why the last comisario quit and how the current Comisario of San Carlos is illegal.

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And here's a good reason to consider this:
http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/guaymas-money-woes-put-local-services-at-risk/

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What I don´t understand is how non-Mexican citizens would have any more legal status than they do now should SC be a separate city.

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San Carlos becoming a Municipality would have not enhance. nor detract from our status. The goal is to retain taxes raised here in San Carlos, and have final say over how they are used. Perhaps a secondary goal is to make Vince's wife the Comisaria.....???? who knows.....ain't gonna happen

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why is the comisario ilegal ?

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what is the comisarios job

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Visitor San Carlos. Watch the video, it explains very clearly why the comisario is not legal. The presentation was excellent. Juan Carlos seems to be very well informed, and has done his research. His explanations were very well presented. The problems that San Carlos is dealing with , are quite serious. It has hampered development, and it has driven many to other parts of Mexico. It is time for Guaymas to address the lack of public service, and give back the money to San Carlos for the services and projects that are so lacking in everyday life.

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Yes it would be to San Carlos' advantage to be its own municipio in control of its own property tax revenue. BUT, we foreigners cannot sign a petition to that effect because that would constitute participation by a foreigner in a Mexican political process.

It's one thing to petition for better services i.e. water, sewer, electric and phone/internet vs. petitioning to secede from the Municipio de Guaymas.

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As for the current Comisario being "illegal", that's just simply not so. The reason is that even though there is a protocol for bringing names up for the Mayor's consideration, it is still the Mayor's prerogative. He can name anyone he wants to be his Comisario in each of the various communities in the municipio (like a county in the U.S.). The City Council can though, by a simple majority, override the Mayor's appointment but this is seldom done. So if the City Council doesn't like the fact that Ruben Pinto owns a restaurant in San Carlos, they can vote him out. Until then, he is our LEGALLY appointed Comisario.  

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Bravo! I will help you get those signatures from my friends who are Mexican and can legally sign.

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it looks like rubin is getting some action on the water and sewer problem. i don't see a problem with that. it looks like the water and sewer mess has been going on for a while. is he just pulling wool ?

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Visitor, Ruben Pinto, Comisario de San Carlos, delivered the petition and photos of the sewer problem to the Governor. Two days later there was action on some of the sewer problems but it is still up to us, the affected residents to keep up the pressure. I've posted the Governor's email address earlier. Keep pounding away San Carlos!

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I would assume that the people of Guaymas would vote against this if we are actually helping to provide more money to their infrastructure. I would also assume that 90K full Mexican residents in Guaymas will probably cast more no votes than the 4k part time Mexican residents here, or am I missing something?

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It would be a great Coup. All in San Carlos would benefit. The faint of heart can not believe it can happen.


PS. Every great event that I made happen in my life started with "NO or It Can't Be Done".    Go Figure.


We got the Movers and the Shakers and then we have the Nay Sayers.


Question; which one of those two groups would you want to run your your Company or your future?

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Bullshipper raises an interesting issue: can part-time Mexican owners vote in a Guaymas election or only in their regular residence city.

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Above is the email address for the Governor in Hermosillo. Let's all make noise! Be sure to put "Attention: Governor Pavlovich Re: CEA in San Carlos, Sonora". It doesn't matter that the email is in English. If enough people write to her, it will get her attention.

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Bullshipper & MaryT, This would be a local referendum and the qualifications of an eligible voter are:

1. Credencial de votante, voter registration card;
2. Property in San Carlos recorded in his/her name;
3. Utility bills in his/her name, (prior six months).

The legal boundaries of San Carlos are those of the three ranches that make up San Carlos: Rancho El Baviso (the biggest one with all of the Ranchitos and Creston); Rancho Bahia San Carlos (the smallest) and Rancho Algodones (West side). I don't know if Pilar, Delphin, Arecifes or any of the Ejido Buenos Aires could join in the referendum but I suspect not because they are outside of the "Nuevo Guaymas" designation, (still within the 85506 zip code though, hmmmm...?).

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Richard Baca wrote: Bullshipper & MaryT, This would be a local referendum and the qualifications of an eligible voter are:

1. Credencial de votante, voter registration card;
2. Property in San Carlos recorded in his/her name;
3. Utility bills in his/her name, (prior six months).

The legal boundaries of San Carlos are those of the three ranches that make up San Carlos: Rancho El Baviso (the biggest one with all of the Ranchitos and Creston); Rancho Bahia San Carlos (the smallest) and Rancho Algodones (West side). I don't know if Pilar, Delphin, Arecifes or any of the Ejido Buenos Aires could join in the referendum but I suspect not because they are outside of the "Nuevo Guaymas" designation, (still within the 85506 zip code though, hmmmm...?).


To be clear, I am for this, I just think its an uphill fight that's impossible to pull off if the voters in Guaymas have a vote. I have been asked on the street for money repeatedly after asking for directions, so I believe the residents also feel we are their cash cow. Their situation is really desperate.

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