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 Posted: Mon Apr 24th, 2017 04:19 pm
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My friends in Guaymas receive water most of the time. Not twice a week. San Carlos has areas that do not receive water atlas twice a week. It is a shame that we have been lied to repeatedly, and CEA does nothing. If they cleaned that office out of the nepotism, and hired people that actually knew what they were doing, it would run much smoother, and more people would be happier.

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Thanks for your reply & I/we who are concerned about the arroyo realize the funding issues but seems what money is allocated...presume it is from taxes...goes to less important issues such as redoing the SAN CARLOS sign and all the work that goes into the town just before Semana Santa. When the arroyo issue was presented to him, he was in the process of paying for the sign and didn't know if there would be funds to clean it out. Just hoping that what tax money San Carlos does get is used for the more serious issues.

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Jublee, my understanding was that the San Carlos sign clean up was paid for by donations, I believe I read that in What's Up San Carlos. If it wasn't paid for this way, then I certainly agree with you, total waste of money. I do not mind them cleaning up the community, but perhaps they could do it in September, before the majority of us TAX PAYERS arrive!!!!

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Where are you people getting these numbers?

Hard for me to believe that SC with 7000 part time residents is creating more tax revenue than a city of more than 70,000 full time residents, as I as a SC resident also do a lot of my shopping in Guaymas too. Beyond sales tax, the state has to at least match their contributions to their city and this is also based on census numbers.

Public schools in Guaymas are now charging their students monthly for electrical, water, and maintenance costs along with uniforms and all school materials that the kids have to also provide for themselves, so I really do not see the town of Guaymas rolling in extra cash either.

We are non voting tourists so I while I think that town halls are a good way of showing Mr Pinto our moral support, I believe that newspaper stories are probably a more effective way to spur more support from the town and state for SC.

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The SC sign was all donations and volunteer labor; nothing to do with tax money. All of our property tax money goes to the Guaymas Treasury. Little, if any, comes back. Street lighting along the boulevard is spotty and lacking in other places. Our Police vehicles are not allocated enough gasoline to adequately patrol. And what about fire protection? The Comisario doesn't have a secretary/receptionist. Worse, he has no budget money and a contingency fund? SHeeesh, wassat? So where's our property tax money?

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richard , you answered your question in your post #2 the last sentence!!!

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I know that the money/supplies/labor to redo the sign last year was all donated as was quite aware of all the contributions being made by comments here on the forum; however, was not aware of any fund raising/contributions this spring when work was being done on it. Also, (and this is 2nd hand info) when Rubin Pinto was approached about the arroyo situation, he said the money he had available at the time was going for the sign improvement...just what I was told.

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I apologize & kudos to the donors....as just read this in a previous issue of the newsletter....
Our San Carlos sign on the hill is all spruced up and painted again! Many thanks to the generous donors who helped to purchase the paint and supplies, with a special shout out to Charly's Rock and Los Arbolitos. Thanks to organizers and fundraisers Al Dodson and Michael Peiffer for spearheading this project. Michael and our new San Carlos Comisario, Ruben Pinto, worked together to make this happen.
Maybe our Comisario was just putting off the issue of the arroyo with his comments...

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So very right Frankie, San Carlos is the "little engine that could"! We are funding Guaymas and I ask again, is that fair? And our property taxes are based on a higher mil rate to boot! So why can't we get our streets repaired? LDM road for instance, and that little short block in front of TelMex... Have any noticed that Ranchitos East got many streets paved with concrete? Why? Because those people vote! We are nobody politically, but collectively, a cash cow!

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Ranchitos East roads that were paved were done so because they became arroyos during Jimena. It was part of a large project (federal?) that paved risky areas all over Guaymas and in the Ranchitos. There was a lot of information in the newspapers about it.

I would hope that people would come with specific areas they would like to see improved (PASA giving regular service is mine) and not waste time on trying to make San Carlos a separate city. Talk about tilting at windmills. That attitude gets us absolutely nothing.

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in my 16 years here in san carlos i have never been aware of a town hall type meeting! this is a start!! will there be chaos probably, but that is OK because before we can walk we have to learn to crawl, and before we can run we have to learn to walk! we all know there are many issues and hopefully this is the start of concerned community involvement!  ruben pinto is starting something new for US, that should be admired!

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Many years ago, we had townhall meetings in the reception room at the Hotel Posada. Then we had town hall meetings in the back room of Del Mar restaurant. We even had a San Carlos Residence association, that had fund raisers, and made positive improvements in San Carlos for the good of everyone. It was always the same people doing all of the work. They eventually moved away, or died. No longer do we have San Carlos days....that was always a fun event. The gardeners that throw the debris into the wash, should be fined, and they would stop clogging the wash. People need to take responsibility for their actions. San Carlos could raise a lot of money by nailing the speeders through town.

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One hell of a good turnout...WTG San Carlos.



Suerte Sr. Pinto.

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Otto Claussen came to San Carlos once for a meeting like this.

I can tell you that the comsiario just tried to take all the gringos in town on a ride at this meeting.

Pure theater!

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Vince, if you are referring to Comisario Efrain Soto, my experience was just the opposite. He was a hard working guy who loved San Carlos, was paid very little, and had to fight to get support from the City of Guaymas. Whenever I asked for help, he offered it and was effective. But, perhaps you are referring to someone else.

While opinions vary, I also saw Otto Claussen in action in a very positive way. He was a kingpin in getting the towers at Estero Soldado removed.

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Efrain Soto is now the head of CEA for Guaymas and San Carlos according to the summary of the meeting. Maybe those that have a good relationship with him can assist in solving the many issues with water and sewer.

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Awaiting Mr. Baca's summary of the meeting. I was not there but based on George's summary, sounds like it was a complete runaround. Si o no? 

Is Efrain Soto, the man Mr. Baca speaks so highly of, really the head of CEA now?

Frankie, you have been rather vocal about how excited you are to have a town hall meeting. What was your assessment of the meeting?

How were questions from the audience handled? How many residents were allowed to ask questions? How long did the meeting actually last?

Any others, please give us your synopsis. Like so many others, we are out of town right now. 

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the meeting wasn't as disappointing as some are saying! it seems from my take of the meeting that their hands are tied regarding a lot of issues! ruben pinto's references to us paying for some of the problems where, i believe taken wrong! IE;the water meters! i personally understood what i have to do regarding my water meter plumbing if i want it correct! i will have my company plumber install the copper pipe we originally had, done correctly at my expense and i will no longer have a problem or an issue! 
there was talk of some of the issues being funded out of our pockets similar to NOB adopt a hiway programs!
so all stated above if we all wonder where are water bill and tax money is going, we can keep wondering!!! if we want to help correct the issues, then we band together and fund some of projects to correct them!
i am not saying this is fair, but probably better than waiting for ever to have it done by THEM!

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Thank you for the information on the meeting.  I will also be hiring your plumber frankie to replace the cheap plastic that CEA used to replace the copper piping previously in place.  The other board mentioned that those of us who need/want to make such repairs should take our receipts to them for a credit. I plan on doing just that. 
I think they might have a misconception of the "Adopt a Highway" program up north.  My understanding is that the program invites local businesses and citizens to adopt an area along the roadways to keep them clean, not pave them etc.  That is what property tax money should be used for, in my opinion. Perhaps a percentage (20-25%) of the property tax collected annually could be designated specifically to SC so the Comisario would have the funds to resolve many of the road/sewer/trash collection issues.  That would be an issue for our Comisario to raise with the Mayor, but it seems like that would be a good solution.  
Thanks again to our Comisario for hosting the town hall, for all who attended and for sharing the notes.  Vamos!

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after the meeting ruben pinto was with his attorney drafting a petition letter to the governor, we where asked to sign this petition in an attempt to get action on the issues! 
ruben pinto and efrin soto both live here in san carlos and both are quite aware of the problems! "hands tied" both are relatively new to their positions ruben as comisario and efrin as head of CEA here in san carlos! 
the problems we have, where here before both men assumed their current positions! they both have now heard from the NOB portion of the community! 
if i have any disappointments with the meeting it is that there was almost no mexican nationals at the meeting and none of the members of the families who have local and state influence!  

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