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 Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2017 09:10 pm
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Randy Van Kirk killed in a fatal ambush near Yecora yesterday. It's confirmed, I just talked to Luis the mgr of the CyberCo. 
He founded CyberCo, passed the shop to his son Kyler and retired to Yecora. 

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A Really Terrible Tragedy just happened to a Good Man ! My thoughts go out Meg and the rest of the family, in this painful time ! RIP Randy !

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We knew Randy as a well meaning and hard working individua; may he R.I.P.l. Our heartfelt condolences to the van Kirk family in Sonora and Chihuahua!

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it is my understanding the ambush occurred sunday the 2nd rest in peace randy!

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Ambush? Pls elaborate.

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He was driving down the mountain from Yecora, when he was ambushed on the road, robbed and murdered.

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About a year ago, Randy invited me to drive my camper up to his Yecora property to do some camping. He warned me of the danger being close to the Chihuahua border where cartels sometimes cross into Sonora. That was enough to discourage me. I am so sad because the entire family are marvelous people !!!! RIP Randy !!!!! Big and loving hugs to Meg and the family.

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"Cartel killing?" C'mon! There's NOTHING "cartel" about this most tragic event! It was car theft, which he resisted, by armed perps plain and simple! Should this happen to anyone IMO, give 'em the car and/or whatever they ask for and accept a long hike!

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Okay DSD, where are your witnesses to your claimed assertion that this was a cartel hit? NONE I'm sure because there are none! Please don't try to taint the good name of a fine, honest, hard working, God fearing individual!

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i just got back into town saturday 11:00 pm. i have now heard 3 stories on this tragic event! 

randy wouldn't sell his ranch to the cartel
he was buying cattle and had 80,000. he was robbed of
now a car jacking
we will probably never know the truth! 
what everyone can agree on is it was a tragic loss of a fine member of our community!

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I dont know what happened up there, but I will say that the one time I went to Yecora, we were going to go exploring some back roads out behind where Mark Mulligan has his place. We were stopped by a municipal policeman with an automatic weapon (??? that was a first) who said you cant go back there because marijuana is being harvested and it is too dangerous. We got the distinct impression that this guy was not warning us as much as protecting the interests of the growers;  the way he brandished the weapon in menacing fashion towards us. We decided to try and push on to Basaseachi after that but were told that the highway was also closed, due to the harvest and that we would have to spend the night in Yecora. WOW! This was about seven years ago.

Irrespective of that story, there are direct and indirect cartel killings. The newspapers are full of the direct type, complete with beheadings and mutilations and such. But there are also the crimes of opportunity like kidnappings, robberies, carjackings, etc., by persons on the fringe of the cartels;  the street pushers, the addicts, the persons high on meth, persons who incur debt to cartel members, who pay their debt by strong-arming people. Sometimes those "lesser" crimes take a turn for the worse, and people die during them.

Little comfort to the victims, whether it is the direct or indirect type. 

The drug trade, directly or indirectly, is probably responsible for well north of 90% of all killings that are NOT domestic killings in Mexico. It may not be much different in the States, either. 

All this is, of course, my opinion.


Mr. Baca, I fail to see how ".....the good name of a fine, honest, hard working, God fearing individual" is besmirched by POSSIBLY becoming a victim. If a member of the Mexican media or clergy are killed by a cartel, does that detract from their "good name"? Quite the opposite, IMO.

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as an observer there seems to be a lot of speculation here and very little compassion. i didn't know him and i don't know the family so i will just add may he RIP and may his family and friends find solace in their memories

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Thank you Visitor, for a most thoughtful, sensible and compassionate post.

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To the community and the family of Randy Van Kirk.
I am honored and blessed to have known Randy Van Kirk.
He was a great entrepreneur to say the least! A true
perfectionist of business. Randy knew the ART OF THE DEAL!
Randy will be truly missed by all!

Blessings!
Ranee

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All my deepest condolences to his family , witch i know some and unfortunately his own family thinks it was done by the cartel . I got the following from a family member . The car following him shot him in his neck with an automatic weapon and with military bullets in it. He had no chance to escape and it was on instant dead for him. Since he had several thefts on his ranch before of animals , he put up security cameras around and most likely they did not like that. This is so sad since he was a very generous person con everyone.

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i have a question? was randy alone? if he was, then everything is speculation!
military ammo? what does that mean? most automatic and semi automatic weapons use solid ball ammo, is that what you mean?
the reason i ask is stating "military ammo" is a serious implication! with no sound verification, other than he said she said!
you are starting irresponsible and serious concerns in many minds!
 

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Hi Frankie, it was good to see you this morning! Yes, Randy was alone and therefore, it's ALL speculation! As for military caliber ammo or not, it's six rounds that killed him. "When firearms are outlawed, only outlaws will possess them", so the caliber matters not, it was outlaws plain and simple, but "cartel"(?), that's a stretch and pure speculation!

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you are wrong. she is my neighbor and friend. you are posting bad words.

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posts #'s 21 & 23 you are posting innuendos, speculation and sarcasm! 
your information is coming 2nd/3rd party and the first party speaking spanish, assuming it was the authiorities!

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