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In a few years I will retire from Arizona teaching and am looking to go out of the country to teach for a few years. Can anyone living here chat with me? I have been to several places on the Baja for vacation and loved it but how is it to live there? Is 8,000 or so Pesos really enough to live on there? What is an average apartment like and cost? Any information would be really helpful. I could only find vacation prices on line. Thank you for any contacts made and have a great week.

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Rents and food are a little cheaper than in the states, but gasoline is double. $500 dlls a month would be a real challenge imo.

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No, 8000 pesos a month is not realistic. At current exchange rates, that is $446US a month.

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I live on US$1,000 a month full time down here which includes ALL of my living expenses and a housekeeper. But, I pay no rent because I have my own house.

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Rent costs depend on whether you live in San Carlos or Guaymas. It would be difficult to live in Guaymas without the ability to speak Spanish but you can find places there that are far less expensive. You can p/m me if you wish. My partnerĀ“s daughter taught at CA a few years ago but the school has been sold since then. There are other schools also.

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At todays exchange rate it would be $470 a month. No, you can not live on that a month if you are renting. Even in Guaymas. Would be hard to live on that even if you own your own home.

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$1,000 a month PLUS rent is very realistic to live here. A modest 1 BR apt in SC is maybe $300 or more.

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Well you lasted that long in teaching somehow. Maybe you had a good school? No one has had a very glamorous experience that I know of there. You did somehow live on poverty pay in the States though. Maybe you are a masochist and need the torture though. I would keep earning decent pay, or go somewhere where cost of living is significantly cheaper. San Carlos really isn't that cheap, and it is not that third-world help the poor teaching job you may be envisioning. More like spoiled fresas ready to terrorize the gringa. Well, maybe it could turn out not to be that bad.

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Repsilon: your spoiled fresas remark is inaccurate. That phenomenon takes place in any country only when the teacher lacks good classroom management skills. I have taught grades 5 to 12 down here for over 10 years without the problems that you describe. We need good gringa/o teachers down here and I can help this person look. 

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At what schools and what situations? Do you speak fluent Spanish? I'll say that my friends had no formal teaching training and barely knew Spanish. Plus they were young and able to be eaten alive. Maybe some  youth are still fearful of old crabbies. I had my Masters but couldn't get the nice guy tattoo off my forehead no matter what I did. I knew many experienced teachers that were giving up on the deviants and system where I was at. You really have to be special to be a teacher these days. I can't imagine doing it with language bariers. I just can't imagine why someone would want to come to a foreign country to work for a pitiful amount of money. I sure hope they would be smart enough to pay at least 15,000 m.n./month to an experienced teacher, over twelve months. I'd look at what resources you will receive or be expected to supply out of your pitiful pay. Those two things might give you a reflection of the administrative and parental support. The state of education is pretty sad overall, but thankfully there are still some saints and masochists out there willing to take on the apathy that many parents, administrators, and students have towards education.

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and what a sad academic future for your son,repsilon, if you choose to stay in san carlos. even the privalte schools are lacking the basic fundamentals, and teen pregnancies are at a record hi. it does take a village. muy triste~

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I thought things were better at a few of the private schools, but I don't doubt it. Most all of the wealth  here is transferred on a silver platter, and well... we see how great everything else is run. Mexico does have standards to pass on students. I still don't know whether to laugh or cry at the 11th grade student at my first school who wrote on the board "Juan is dom". At least my students that came up from Mexico showed some respect and had some work ethic. The Mexican/Americans that made up the other 90% of my classrooms were all destined to welfare and/or the prison system. It all starts at home with the parents. At least Fisher's parents and grandmother were educators and will fill in the gaps. My last school was just daycare with students maybe putting in 10-15 minutes of work a day. Even more so here, they expect just to drop off the kids and the teachers to do it all. I think some schools here are still allowed to be a little 'tough' on the kids. I had a few very poor kids that would work for rewards. A few liked positive reinforcement and praise. Some maybe feared a call home, loss of priveledges, or help from administration. Most just fed off each other and the negative hopeless society that surrounded them to repeat the cycle, waiting for their expected handouts. Now communities choose to divert school funding to incarceration and other welfare. I was killing myself to teach 2-3 kids a class that had a will and a chance to break free. It was too depressing from the world in which I grew up. I just hope that some developed the skills to get through vocational training. My hat's off to those teachers that can cope with the entire educational malfunctions that exist today. They are saints working for insufficient compensation.

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If I had my way I'd just send Fisher to school in La Manga so we'd be in good with the pangueros, and maybe he could apprentice with Luis' shop. The rest he'll have to pass on his IPad programs if he wants to go fishing. ...but it looks like he thinks he can make it as a dancer. Watch out for the guero Enrique Iglesias and Ricky Martin.

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Home school is an effective alternative for San Carlos, imo.
My 3 kids went to school in Hermosillo and San Luis Potosi and are now in marketing and mining. an attorney, and a research engineer so I had a good experience.
Less drugs, crazies, and school fights, more respect for parents and teachers, more early emphasis on reading-writing and math would describe my experience in the private schools of Hermosillo that are very reasonable to pay for.

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I thought my friends were pretty happy with the schools their kids were at in Guaymas. I'm not sure how to pay for it, so I would opt for boat-based schooling. Too bad I think he'll have to wait on his captain's license. He reprogrammed my autopilot the other day, not fixing it, but at least he didn't charge me like the electricians who never fix it. We're just worried the girls will all swoon over his blue eyes and long lashes and he'll get beat up. 

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My girls went to the private schools in Guaymas, and got a better education then found in most schools in the states. One left the tenth grade, moved to the states and passed her GED and graduated from college in the top 1% of her class.
I did get tired of driving to Guaymas sometimes four times in one day, but it was worth it, for the education and the experience of growing up in the mexican culture. I would do it again, if I had to. Great experience, and a VERY good education. Currently the most popular school in Tucson will cost you $40,000 for a four year high school education.

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The schools have changed somewhat, but are still good, and some other schools have opened, to add more options for the childs education.  Going to college in the states was the first time that they studied in English.  No problems.

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Well, thank you to everyone for your kind and some not so kind advice.lol I would be retired by then so the pay is more than adequate for a second income if I decided to do this. And actually for those who commented, many USA teachers are choosing foreign positions these days.Thanks again for all the advice. We have friends who love teaching there but it is not in San Carlos so was curious.Will head down for a visit soon. Gracias por su atencion.

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McSpankensberg,
Thanks for asking the question. I enjoyed reading some of the replies as I remembered my own very brief experience teaching in a private school in Guaymas. Reading Repsilon's comments made me feel like I was listening to Larry recant stories... This was a fun thread.

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mkspangenberg wrote: Well, thank you to everyone for your kind and some not so kind advice.lol I would be retired by then so the pay is more than adequate for a second income if I decided to do this. And actually for those who commented, many USA teachers are choosing foreign positions these days.Thanks again for all the advice. We have friends who love teaching there but it is not in San Carlos so was curious.Will head down for a visit soon. Gracias por su atencion.
Ok, I think some of us misunderstood about this being a second income.
If money is not a problem then I would certainly recommend the life here in San Carlos. One bedrooms overlooking the bay with a jacuzzi in some of the nicest secure neighboorhoods can be rented furnished for $500. There is a sized community of Americans and Canadians here with lots of activities, and the locals are also very friendly. The summers are very hot and humid, but you probaly will have that time off anyways and can go north to higher elevations.[size= ]

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