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 Posted: Mon Jan 4th, 2016 03:42 pm
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At this location is the pipe previously reported - it is awash in small chop and invisible in anything over calm conditions ( light chop yesterday around 2pm it could not be seen ) day before when flat calm can be seen.

27.91767 latitude, -111.01616 longitude

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Ian, can you be more specific as to what that is? It is a pipe? What is it made of, is it attached to something, or is it on the move? Could it be secured and towed to shore or???? Thanks Ian

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It is two sections of pipe bolted together , if it continues below surface I am not sure but think it does. ( Looks like it )


If it floats it is not moving much - and I am baffled by how metal like that would "float"  which is why I think it goes a long way under the surface.  My feeling is it cannot be towed - but that is just a feeling !


It needs a big orange marker - either the Port Captain or Guaymas need to mark it - I don't know either the people or the language well enough , but would hope someone may and could maybe get the Navy to mark it ?


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I suppose it would be too much to expect the Mexican Navy or the Capital de Puerto to remove an obvious hazard to navigation...........

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It may not be "removable"  - but first they have to know about it.
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Thank you so much Ian, you offered a great, and disturbing description. Maybe someone like Gary, at Gary's dive shop could do something about it. Perhaps Ed Grossman? Just a thought thanks again Ian.

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I saw that pipe Dec. 28th, I reported it to the office in the San Carlos Marina, not surprised nothing was done, they didn't seem interested at all. Definitely a hazard to boating.

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Ian is this the location of the "pipe"?

http://www.allaboutcountries.com/latlng/26bs3w/playa-el-cochorit-latitude-longitude-sonora-mexico

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You're off by a degree - 111 vs 110

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That is worrying - I took the Lat/Long from my spot PLB ! ( Copy and paste )

Basically tagged the point adjacent to the pipe - I am going to look into replacing the SPOT unit as that kind of error could cost a life !  :(

Thanks for noticing 

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Here is screen shot which shows location ( approx ) something is off on the numbers ....



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After a lot of cross checking I find my spot outputs in Decimal Degrees - when i plot the Lat/Long on Google Earth it comes up in the right place.

So I would say the lat/long is correct.

Attached shows hazards location.


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Penny also dropped Iron Man meant Bombero was off a degree - thought mine was wrong !


Good exercise Lat/Long not my strong point , UTM however I like !

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Much thanks to all.

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That pipe has been there for at least 4 months now. I know we saw it right there back then so it doesn't seem to be moving.

I also thought it had been reported on this forum before. Pretty surprised they haven't done anything about it.


Perhaps contacting "Capitania de puerto"? Anybody know anyone there?

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Maybe some intrepid divers with good wetsuits can see what is under this. Could it possibly be the aquafarm thing they tried a while back? At the very least, it needs to be marked out there in open water.

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Last time I brought it up on this forum  I subsequently talked to a Captain in the marina - he thought it was part of the "aquafarm" base . Agree sooner or later a speeding boat will hit it.
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A panga travelling from Miramar to the fishing grounds at night will probably be the 1st casualty.

The Port Captain needs to be asked to send a request to the Navy for its removal by the local newspapers with his response.

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Come on, you guys.  Somebody go the Marina San Carlos office and show them the photo and location and have them call the port Captain and/or Navy in Guaymas. 
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Ian, the format of lat long is confusing to me.
Converting to degrees and minutes, I get
27 degrees 55.06'N
111 degrees  0.99'W
Is that correct?
Location of these on Google Earth looks similar to your picture.
Can you verify this is correct?
 

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